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Old November 13th, 2008, 07:24 PM   #121
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Well, Alaska belongs to the US even more, but it doesn't have such wide freeways.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 08:01 PM   #122
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Alaska: 0,6 million inhabitants. Puerto Rico: 3,9 million inhabitants. Maybe there's just more need for it. Alaska widest fwy is 2×3 AFAIK.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #123
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We don't get 15% of the funds we would if we were a state ><

Hopefully statehood will be granted in a few years
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Old November 14th, 2008, 09:17 AM   #124
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You need it, regarding the pics. Some of the pavement is quite bad IMO
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Old November 14th, 2008, 04:06 PM   #125
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How come you don't wanna be an independent nation? I mean, you're not the same as (US) Americans (except maybe with those in the south ).
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Old November 14th, 2008, 05:23 PM   #126
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How come you don't wanna be an independent nation? I mean, you're not the same as (US) Americans (except maybe with those in the south ).
Look to the left of Puerto Rico(Cuba) and look to the right(Dominican Republic).

You really think Puerto Rico wants to risk being like those 2 independent nations? Part of the pride of being from PR is that you don't have to sneak on a boat to get to the USA, because you already are American.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #127
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They're in a pretty good situation now, for PR this is probably the best
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Old November 14th, 2008, 06:29 PM   #128
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Look to the left of Puerto Rico(Cuba) and look to the right(Dominican Republic).

You really think Puerto Rico wants to risk being like those 2 independent nations? Part of the pride of being from PR is that you don't have to sneak on a boat to get to the USA, because you already are American.
Ok, but national conscience is usually bigger.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 07:57 PM   #129
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Ok, but national conscience is usually bigger.
And having an American passport is usually bigger than national conscience Besides, the only tyranny from the USA I can see is that they make Puerto Ricans use MPH for speed limits... and maybe not being able to buy Cuban cigars...
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Old November 14th, 2008, 09:59 PM   #130
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Puerto Rico rejected all four of status requests filed on the plebiscite held on December 13, 1998. The fifth column on the ballot, "None of the above", won an absolute majority of votes cast in the elections, which were distributed as follows:

-Petition 1, the Free Associated State (ELA) "Territory", 993 (0.1%) (actual status)
-Request 2, Free Association, 4536 (0.3%)
-Petition 3, Statehood, 728,157 (46.5%)
-Petition 4, Independence, 39,838 (2.5%)
-None of the above, 787,900 (50.3%)
-and void and blank ballots, 4846 (0.3%)

Votes of "None of the above" over the statehood was of 59,743 votes. From 2,197,824 registered voters (1998), voted 1,566,270, for a participation rate of 71.3%.
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From years to now, most of the people think about a status change, and I think there are more support bye the people for the statehood.

And here a map of the 78 municipalities of Puerto Rico, with the option of status that won in each one. (1998) Blue: Statehood; Red: None of the above.




The politicians are working to do another plebiscite soon, and resolve the problem of status.

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Old November 15th, 2008, 05:24 AM   #131
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The biggest problem is the fact that the majority the people of Puerto Rico don't know the benefits of becoming a state,most people think everything will be the same and that it'll be "English Only".

@AUchamps, they're both to our left,but you're totally right
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Old November 15th, 2008, 02:04 PM   #132
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Yeah, to the right are actually Virgin Islands.
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Old November 15th, 2008, 05:13 PM   #133
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Look to the left of Puerto Rico(Cuba) and look to the right(Dominican Republic).
Better yet, look in an atlas

(Puerto Rico is not situated between Cuba and the Dominican Rep.)
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Old November 16th, 2008, 07:59 AM   #134
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Better yet, look in an atlas

(Puerto Rico is not situated between Cuba and the Dominican Rep.)
Touche, but I'm talking about in the sense of the "Big 3" Spanish-speaking Caribbean nations. Yes I was wrong in that PR is furthest to the east, but you still get the point I was trying to make.
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Gaining a statehood within the Union would more likely cause conservative politicians from the mainland to revise their "English as official language" agenda. Plus, it would be the first state to use metric system in almost all aspects of life. I would only welcome this move.
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Gaining a statehood within the Union would more likely cause conservative politicians from the mainland to revise their "English as official language" agenda. Plus, it would be the first state to use metric system in almost all aspects of life. I would only welcome this move.
I wouldn't. We don't need a Quebec type situation in the USA. Besides, metric is like soccer. Let everyone enjoy it, but allow the USA to enjoy our measurement system the same way we love American Football.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:03 AM   #137
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Should Puerto Rico join the Union, you would still be able to enjoy your outdated system and unique 'football'. No worries there, mate.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 07:13 PM   #138
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What would the expected party balance of PR's two USSenators and expected 6 USHouse Representatives be?
(Keeping in mind, of course, that: a) PR's 'Resident Commissioner', essentially non-voting delegate to the USHouse, in recent years has been a Republican, and b) when Alaska and Hawaii were granted statehood in 1959, AK was expected to be overwhelmingly 'D' and HI was expected to be solidly 'R', while the reality has been the direct opposite.)

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Old November 16th, 2008, 08:58 PM   #139
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To answer that question is to understand the dominant political parties in Puerto Rico as they exist today.

-Partido Popular Democrático(PPD, or Popular Democratic Party): These guys want to keep the status quo in Puerto Rico(and even go toward the same status that the USA gives to the Marshall Islands and the likes) and their leanings are very much in line with that of the Democrat Party here.

-Partido Nuevo Progresista(PNP, or New Progressive Party): These guys are the pro-state party and interestingly enough are a centrist party that has top party officials aligning with the Republicans and others aligning with the Democrats. The PNP is the party that the non-voting Congressman in DC is affiliated with(he's one of the Republican leaning PNP ppl), the current Governor, which I'm not sure if he's been thrown in jail yet, is a PNP guy that is also a registered Democrat, and the PNP has supermajorities in PR's House of Representatives and Senate.
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Old November 16th, 2008, 09:15 PM   #140
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AUchamps, you seem to know a lot about Puerto Rico, except for where it is.
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