Cumberland Terrace Redevelopment | Speculation | ??? st | ??? m | Downtown

The 'Sauga · August 16th, 2007, 07:46 PM

A bit too early to call this a proposal but it is inevitable that as Yorkville and Yonge/Bloor continues to grow that this embarassing little squat of a building that covers the entire block will be redeveloped.

This rendering might be a bit old but looks like the plan includes re-cladding Two Bloor West in glass and converted to residential use (?), redevlopment of the Holt Renfrew/Cumberland Terrace and a new residential tower on the corner of Bay/Cumberland.

rlapidus · August 16th, 2007, 08:24 PM

I wonder if perhaps converting 2 Bloor West to residential has been eliminated or was simply a concept. One of the companies owned by the same holding company I work for just moved their offices into completely reno'd space at 2 Bloor West last week. I would assume the lease is for several years.

I like the way the north/south alley has been moved from Bloor St. to Cumberland; this will give space for another retail storefront on Bloor while maintaining the access to the east/west laneway used by Holts and 60 Bloor West.

Mike in TO · August 16th, 2007, 11:17 PM

That's a fairly old rending - I'd be interested in the firm that put it together - also it appears that the L.A. skyline is in the background.

Filip · August 16th, 2007, 11:22 PM

Bergman Hamman.

monkeyronin · August 17th, 2007, 12:01 AM

Its Edmonton. Why? Who knows.

Waterloo_Guy · August 17th, 2007, 12:37 AM

Here's a happy thought: if they convert that office tower into condos, it will create additional demand for downtown office space.

Mollywood · August 17th, 2007, 04:24 AM

Oh god, I hope this happens, Cumberland Terrace is a disaster. My other dream, the demise, or shall I say, total redevelopment of The Hudson Bay Centre. That one complex kills the east side of Bloor st. That is one BIG, ugly hunk of cement. If that were at least renovated, maybe the east side of Bloor might take off too.

ladyscraper · August 17th, 2007, 04:33 AM

hey which building is cumberland terrace? sorry to sound so clueless but i'm sure i would know it if i saw it since i don't know it by name... anyone gota picture of it? thanks!

Filip · August 17th, 2007, 04:35 AM

Do you want to see it? Trust me, it ain't pretty.

Actually.. I have no clue what that is doing in the heart of Yorkville... God damn!

ladyscraper · August 17th, 2007, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filip

Do you want to see it? Trust me, it ain't pretty.

Actually.. I have no clue what that is doing in the heart of Yorkville... God damn!

well yeah! i need to see something as hideous as everyone is saying! i'm hyped to see just how bad it is! haha

Filip · August 17th, 2007, 04:43 AM

Le major ew:

It's actually.. terrible.

"Life is intoxicating" How true, very very true.

***Jaye101*** · August 17th, 2007, 06:01 AM

"Le Major ew"

Haha, you kill me.

ScrapeTheSky · August 17th, 2007, 06:09 AM

Major ew is right.

Filip · August 17th, 2007, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaye101

"Le Major ew"

Haha, you kill me.

But Jaye! I am le tired!

.. Memories

***Taller, Better*** · August 17th, 2007, 07:37 AM

Here is a le photograph of the le pewww, taken last week, highlighting its major fuglitude...

Look carefully on the CIBC building, all the little windows that are missing:

isaidso · August 17th, 2007, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollywood

Oh god, I hope this happens, Cumberland Terrace is a disaster. My other dream, the demise, or shall I say, total redevelopment of The Hudson Bay Centre. That one complex kills the east side of Bloor st. That is one BIG, ugly hunk of cement. If that were at least renovated, maybe the east side of Bloor might take off too.

God! Where did you come from? Heaven? Almost every post I've read of yours makes me feel like I'm not some lunatic radical after all.

I doubt Hudson Bay Centre will come down, but the easiest and most cost effective redevelopment might be to open up the store/mall/TTC to the street. A modern glass sheet running the length of the store, and shooting up to the top floor and maybe even beyond.

This would negate the heavy bleak concrete facade, allow for the development of cafes, newsstands, snack shops, and some other retail that the Bay might not object to.

A massive glass atrium leading into the store and the TTC station might work well with the refurbishment of the Bloor/Yonge station which wasn't designed for the capacity it now deals with.

Visual sight lines into the Bay store from the street might also re-invigorate traffic to the store. Glass could really solve alot of problems for the Hudson's Bay Centre.

And yes, I was wondering what might encourage Bloor street shopping to move to the east as well. I really think a good anchor as far east as Sherbourne would be needed to accomplish this, but don't know what the ideal candidate would be.

If there were already rail corridors, I'd suggest a massive intercity train station to alleviate Union Station's load. Most large cities have 3-5 large inter city train stations, but Toronto is decades away from this, I realize.

ladyscraper · August 17th, 2007, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filip

Le major ew:

It's actually.. terrible.

"Life is intoxicating" How true, very very true.

haha thanks for posting.. it feels like i stepped into scarborough there for a second!

valantino · August 17th, 2007, 05:05 PM

Quote:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...9closeup-1.jpg

I see windows missing every now and then from pretty much all the glassy towers. However the facade in the close-up especially the mullions are looking really tired

noob(but not really) · August 28th, 2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isaidso

If there were already rail corridors, I'd suggest a massive intercity train station to alleviate Union Station's load. Most large cities have 3-5 large inter city train stations, but Toronto is decades away from this, I realize.

Uuh, that's pretty random. Where would these rail corridors lead from/go to?

What makes you think we need another intercity train station? Union is in the ideal location that would best serve this need.

caltrane74 · August 28th, 2007, 10:20 PM

I see they reclad the cumberland terrace entrance in sliver panels...

When i was a kid the entrance was a nasty 70's red colour...all where the silver you see is now.

August 16th, 2007, 07:46 PM	#1
The 'Sauga Urban afficionado Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 282	Cumberland Terrace Redevelopment \| Speculation \| ??? st \| ??? m \| Downtown A bit too early to call this a proposal but it is inevitable that as Yorkville and Yonge/Bloor continues to grow that this embarassing little squat of a building that covers the entire block will be redeveloped. This rendering might be a bit old but looks like the plan includes re-cladding Two Bloor West in glass and converted to residential use (?), redevlopment of the Holt Renfrew/Cumberland Terrace and a new residential tower on the corner of Bay/Cumberland.

August 16th, 2007, 08:24 PM	#2
rlapidus Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 33	2 Bloor West I wonder if perhaps converting 2 Bloor West to residential has been eliminated or was simply a concept. One of the companies owned by the same holding company I work for just moved their offices into completely reno'd space at 2 Bloor West last week. I would assume the lease is for several years. I like the way the north/south alley has been moved from Bloor St. to Cumberland; this will give space for another retail storefront on Bloor while maintaining the access to the east/west laneway used by Holts and 60 Bloor West. Last edited by rlapidus; August 16th, 2007 at 08:26 PM. Reason: Alley comment

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August 16th, 2007, 11:17 PM	#3
Mike in TO Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 380	That's a fairly old rending - I'd be interested in the firm that put it together - also it appears that the L.A. skyline is in the background.

August 16th, 2007, 11:22 PM	#4
Filip Madrileño por un año Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Madrid Posts: 6,640	Bergman Hamman.

August 17th, 2007, 12:01 AM	#5
monkeyronin °ε ° Join Date: May 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,857	Its Edmonton. Why? Who knows.

August 17th, 2007, 12:37 AM	#6
Waterloo_Guy I See Skyscrapers Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,046	Here's a happy thought: if they convert that office tower into condos, it will create additional demand for downtown office space.

August 17th, 2007, 04:24 AM	#7
Mollywood Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,256	Oh god, I hope this happens, Cumberland Terrace is a disaster. My other dream, the demise, or shall I say, total redevelopment of The Hudson Bay Centre. That one complex kills the east side of Bloor st. That is one BIG, ugly hunk of cement. If that were at least renovated, maybe the east side of Bloor might take off too.

August 17th, 2007, 04:33 AM	#8
ladyscraper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: toronto Posts: 390	hey which building is cumberland terrace? sorry to sound so clueless but i'm sure i would know it if i saw it since i don't know it by name... anyone gota picture of it? thanks!

August 17th, 2007, 04:35 AM	#9
Filip Madrileño por un año Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Madrid Posts: 6,640	Do you want to see it? Trust me, it ain't pretty. Actually.. I have no clue what that is doing in the heart of Yorkville... God damn!

August 17th, 2007, 04:43 AM	#11
Filip Madrileño por un año Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Madrid Posts: 6,640	Le major ew: It's actually.. terrible. "Life is intoxicating" How true, very very true.

August 17th, 2007, 06:09 AM	#13
ScrapeTheSky Coruscanti Cognoscente Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,298	Major ew is right.

August 28th, 2007, 10:20 PM	#20
caltrane74 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 799	I see they reclad the cumberland terrace entrance in sliver panels... When i was a kid the entrance was a nasty 70's red colour...all where the silver you see is now.