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Old November 18th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #41
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There goes our goal of having the demolition finished by New Year's Eve 2010. Now the Mahalia Jackson curse will affect 130 Liberty Street.
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Old November 25th, 2010, 06:52 AM   #42
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this thread makes me cry
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:20 PM   #43
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Old December 11th, 2010, 01:06 AM   #44
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Lowermanhattan.info reports its now down to the 3rd floor and the tower crane removal will start in early January.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 05:10 AM   #45
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glad to hear that they are almost finished. I think a green space would be really cool. It could be another place where people can go to reflect and read a book, or buy lunch from the winter gardens and have a picnic, although I suppose you'd be able to do this anyways since the trade center is being rebuilt. I bet the ten house fire station wouldn't mind a green space either, another opportunity to unclog the tiny street in front of the station of tourists.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 10:38 AM   #46
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Old December 14th, 2010, 01:51 AM   #47
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glad to hear that they are almost finished. I think a green space would be really cool. It could be another place where people can go to reflect and read a book, or buy lunch from the winter gardens and have a picnic, although I suppose you'd be able to do this anyways since the trade center is being rebuilt. I bet the ten house fire station wouldn't mind a green space either, another opportunity to unclog the tiny street in front of the station of tourists.

Think books will be replaced by ebook readers and tablets pretty soon.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 06:33 AM   #48
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true, but I could never give up my real books for a a kindle or a nook(sp?)

Lets not forget FF Joseph Graffagnino, 34, of Brooklyn, & Robert Beddia, 53, of Staten Island

The city (imo) owes the families at least a monument or memorial in their names. As if there wasn't already enough pain and suffering in the surrounding area...death came back for these FDNY FF's when the structure caught fire in 07'.


these deaths could have easily been prevented, which makes it even sadder
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Old December 15th, 2010, 08:42 AM   #49
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LMCD: Less than a month until former Deutsche Bank is gone

More than nine years since it was damaged beyond repair by the collapsing World Trade Center, crews are finally almost done dismantling 130 Liberty Street, the last standing remnant of Sept. 11 destruction.

Officials of the Lower Manhattan Development Corp., the agency that owns the former Deutsche Bank Tower, say the last three remaining floors of the building will be torn down by mid-January.

“It’s actually quite stunning how low the building’s gotten,” said Josh Rosenbloom, LMDC’s Director of City Operations, noting that the once-40-story tower has been reduced to a height of less than 40 feet.

The agency had earlier predicted that the demolition would be finished by year’s end. But a crane malfunction in late October and difficulty cutting through reinforced steel and concrete on the sixth floor cost crews several days of work time on the site. Rosenbloom said there had not been any further delays in the last month, and that the agency now says the last steel columns slated for extraction would be gone around Jan. 15 if weather is not an impediment.

When the building is down, the LMDC will still have a fair amount of work to do on the site before it can be turned over to the Port Authority, which plans to use it as a staging area for construction of its underground Vehicle Security Center. Most notably, a handful of sections of the above- and below-ground site still need to be examined for human remains. Because a speedy turnover of the site will be crucial to keeping the Vehicle Security Center’s construction on pace, Rosenbloom said the LMDC has been negotiating with the Port Authority over exactly what kind of preparatory work will need to be done before the site changes hands.

“There are some possibilities of the turnover happening sooner if we can work out some arrangements with the Port Authority,” Rosenbloom said, adding that the site could be turned over as soon as early February. “That hasn’t happened yet, but it doesn’t mean it won’t happen.”

Once completed, the building’s $292-million demolition will mark the end of one of the more agonizing chapters in the saga of the World Trade Center’s rebuilding. After the tower was deemed too contaminated to be rehabilitated, crews began in 2006 simultaneously cleaning and dismantling the building, a practice investigators later determined was a contributing factor in the deaths of two firefighters during a horrific August 2007 fire. Following two more years of cleaning the building, workers restarted the demolition with additional safety measures. Floors are now crushed using remote-controlled jackhammers while ironworkers aboard scissor lifts cut steel beams. At each cutting site, and on the floor below, a safety guard is assigned to stand by, ready to douse a fire.

With the exception of the crane malfunction in October, work at 130 Liberty has been steady since early this year, when Bovis Lend Lease, the general contractor on the project, was ordered by the LMDC to replace several of its senior managers on the job after a spate of accidents and potentially deadly safety violations. The two entities, meanwhile, have been warring in court over an $80 million payment Bovis claims it is owed for work it performed outside the scope of its original contract with the agency. A spokesman for the LMDC declined to comment on the ongoing litigation.

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Interesting article!

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Old December 19th, 2010, 09:50 PM   #51
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how long do you think it'll take for the new office towers to go up?
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how long do you think it'll take for the new office towers to go up?
which ones?

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Old December 29th, 2010, 04:52 AM   #53
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what i meant was how long until they start groundbreaking for the new foundation...
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Old January 3rd, 2011, 11:50 AM   #54
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what i meant was how long until they start groundbreaking for the new foundation...
As far as I know they do now know yet what (or if) they build on the plot when the Deutsche Bank Building is demolished

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Old January 8th, 2011, 01:08 AM   #55
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Not very PC, but funny. By in.formed, today.

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I can still imagine some tightass bureaucrat at the LMDC coming down to the site and halting work to give a political correctness speech.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 11:17 AM   #56
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Toxic tower damaged on 9/11 finally coming down

By KAREN MATTHEWS, Associated Press Karen Matthews, Associated Press – Sun Jan 9, 4:29 pm ET

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NEW YORK – The contaminated bank tower stood shrouded in black netting for years over ground zero, filled with toxic dust and the remains of 9/11 victims. It stayed where it was, not coming down even as the towers at the World Trade Center site slowly began to rise.

Nearly a decade after the trade center's south tower fell into it, the building with a sad history of legal and regulatory fights, multiple accidents and a blaze that killed two firefighters will finally be gone. The demise of the 41-story former Deutsche Bank building, just south of ground zero, is at least as welcome to its neighbors as the construction of new trade center towers.

"I love having the light," said Mary Perillo, whose eighth-floor kitchen window overlooks the busy work site where the steel framework of the Deutsche Bank building is being disassembled. "I love having that black monolith out of my face."

The bank tower — first slated for deconstruction in 2005, when a government agency bought it to end an impasse over who would pay to take it down — is down to two stories above street level. The Lower Manhattan Development Corp., the agency that oversaw the $300 million dismantling, said it will be completely removed in a little over a week.

"You're talking about the end of an era," said Kirk Raymond of Windsor, Ontario, gazing at what's left of the building on a visit to the trade center site. "You're erasing the last signs of something pretty terrible."

The delicate work of dismantling a skyscraper — referred to by its street address, 130 Liberty — is visible from surrounding buildings and from the street.

Tourists watched last week as a huge crane gently lowered a steel beam. Sparks flew as a welder removed the cables holding the beam.

"It was great," said Catherine McVay Hughes, a downtown Manhattan community board officer who walked by the building last week. "It was nice to actually be able to see through the skeletal remains of 130 Liberty."

Less than an hour after a hijacked jet slammed into it on Sept. 11, 2001, the trade center's south tower collapsed, tearing a 15-story gash in the Deutsche Bank building. Perillo said a piece of the destroyed tower was embedded in its neighbor "like a fork in a piece of cake."

The building was shrouded in black as Deutsche Bank and its insurers fought over whether to raze it or clean it. To resolve the dispute, the LMDC, the city-state agency created to oversee the rebuilding of the trade center area, agreed to buy the building for $90 million, clean it and tear it down.

The cleanup of toxins including asbestos, lead, mercury, PCBs and dioxins was delayed multiple times by fights over how to remove the material without polluting the neighborhood. More than 700 body parts of Sept. 11 victims were recovered, mostly on the roof, along with parts of the hijacked plane. Environmental and city regulators spent years coming up with a cleanup plan that would keep the toxins in with polyurethane coverings and other protective panels.

Accidents plagued the deconstruction. In May 2007, a 22-foot pipe fell from the building and crashed into the firehouse next door, injuring two firefighters.

Three months later, a construction worker's discarded cigarette sparked a fire that tore through several stories. Firefighters faced hazards including deactivated sprinklers, stairwells that had been blocked to contain toxic debris and a broken standpipe, a crucial water conduit like a fire hydrant.

Firefighters Robert Beddia and Joseph Graffagnino were trapped on the burning 14th floor and died of smoke inhalation on Aug. 18, 2007. Prosecutors investigated every agency involved and heavily chastised the city for failing to regularly inspect the tower and make sure its dismantling was safe.

Three construction industry figures were charged in the fire. Prosecutors said Mitchel Alvo, Jeffrey Melofchik and Salvatore DePaola knew the standpipe had been cut and did nothing about it. The three pleaded not guilty to manslaughter and other charges; their lawyers have argued that the men have been singled out unfairly when government agencies and others are to blame for the fire.

Joseph Graffagnino's widow, Linda, said she has mixed feeling about the criminal case.

"The people who are going on trial are scapegoats for higher-ups who were more responsible," Graffagnino said. "Do I really care about what happens to those people? Not really."

The Graffagninos have sued the city, the LMDC, the main contractor Bovis Lend Lease and subcontractor John Galt Corp. The parties have also sued each other over the mounting costs of the cleanup.

The fire delayed the cleanup and dismantling for a year. Removal of toxic debris started in 2008, and deconstruction resumed in late 2009.

Once it was under way again, the work seemed to go quickly, said Paul Bostick, who could see the trade center site from his apartment once 130 Liberty no longer blocked his view.

"I went from looking across the street at black netting and a building that has a lot of sad history behind it to having an expansive view," Bostick said.

LMDC spokesman John DeLibero said the tower crane that once stood 570 feet high, removing pieces of the building, will come down this week. The dismantling will be complete around Jan. 20; he said the post-holiday snowstorm delayed a Jan. 15 target date.

LMDC leaders did not return calls seeking comment from The Associated Press.

When the former Deutsche Bank building is gone, including below street level, the LMDC will turn the site over to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. The transfer is expected to take place next month.

The Port Authority owns the 16-acre trade center site and plans to place an underground truck-screening facility at the site. The spot has long been slated for the fifth of five towers planned to be rebuilt at the trade center site, although there's no timeline for it.

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, whose district includes ground zero, said the toxic tower's removal is enough of a milestone for now.

"It's one more symbol that lower Manhattan will come back from Sept. 11 bigger, better and stronger than ever before," Silver said.



FILE - In this file photo of Dec. 17, 2010, the deconstruction of the former Deutsche Bank, bottom, is shown at the World Trade Center site in New York.
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Ten Years After 9/11, Deutsche Bank Tower Vanishes

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The 41-story former Deutsche Bank building opposite the World Trade Center site is now the one-story former Deutsche Bank building.

Within a month, it should be down to zero; the last and largest of the 9/11 structural remnants to be cleared away, almost a full decade after it was seriously damaged in the attack and six years after the first of many promised completion dates.

The deconstruction project has spanned the administration of four governors, resulted in the death of two firefighters, cost nearly $160 million, riveted neighbors with fear of asbestos or other contaminants, revealed partial human remains from 9/11, darkened surrounding streets with tunnel-like sidewalk sheds and delayed progress on the overall redevelopment of the trade center, just across Liberty Street.

Now, sky has replaced the looming monolith.

“We like this view,” Avi Schick, the chairman of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, said on Tuesday as he stood outdoors in what used to be the ground floor of the building at 130 Liberty Street. He could see the 1 World Trade Center and 4 World Trade Center towers rising to the north, with the memorial museum pavilion between them. “This view was a long time coming.”

The corporation acquired 130 Liberty Street in 2004 for the purpose of tearing it down. One delay followed another. The first deconstruction contractor came and went. Much of 2006 was spent trying to satisfy environmental regulators that potential contaminants would be safely removed. Deconstruction began in earnest but was halted at the 26th floor by a deadly fire in August 2007. The corporation and its construction manager, Bovis Lend Lease, are battling over claims amounting to tens of millions of dollars, but the project resumed in 2009.

The end of 130 Liberty Street is now in sight. The “roof” of the remaining structure is what was the floor slab of the second floor. There may not be much of that by the time you read this post. The concrete was being steadily broken up Tuesday morning by a remote-controlled demolition robot known by its trade name, Brokk. (Shades of “This Island Earth.”)



Steel beams were being cut apart from supporting columns with acetylene torches, then lifted away by crane. Soon, what little framework remains will be dismantled with a powerful mechanical shears. “It cuts steel like butter,” said Rick Livingston, the project manager for the corporation.

There is little on site that looks as if it was once part of a big office building, except two Detroit Diesel emergency generators and counterweights in the empty elevator shafts. The subterranean vault is open to view.

Much of what is left of the building is being pulverized into rubble and used as solid fill in the basement, which would otherwise tend to rise — believe it or not — because of the tremendous pressure exerted around it by the groundwater. Like the trade center, 130 Liberty Street was built on landfill.

The building will never disappear entirely, because its foundation walls and steel columns will remain, hidden below street level. They might even be used in some way to support whatever structure goes there next.

And what will that be? Julie Menin, the chairwoman of the Lower Manhattan community board and a board member of the development corporation, has been among those championing the idea of moving the proposed performing arts center to 130 Liberty Street from a site just east of 1 World Trade Center.

Neither Mr. Schick nor David Emil, the president of the development corporation, ruled out the possibility. In fact, Mr. Emil said the cost of building on the Liberty Street site — with existing foundations — would be significantly less than on the planned site, which is over PATH tracks and other subterranean infrastructure.

Preliminary diagrams showing how theaters, rehearsal halls and classrooms might be combined with a 35-story apartment building were drawn up in 2009 by Studio Daniel Libeskind, which devised the original trade center redevelopment plan.

“What the community desperately wants is to see this site activated as soon as possible,” Mr. Schick said. “The best and highest use would be some amenity that helps draw more people downtown while simultaneously improving the experience of those who already live and work here.”

The Port Authority will take over the site after deconstruction is complete, and use it as a staging area for the vehicle security center being built beneath the trade center. As to future development, the authority said in a statement: “Whether it is office, retail, hotel, residential or some mix of those uses, that development should be market driven to ensure its highest and best use.”

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I'm so grateful that I stumbled upon this website, and more specifically this thread. It's given me so much more insight into the development of lower Manhattan. You guys are awesome for keeping the thread updated. I gave a presentation on the deconstruction process in one of my Fire Science classes here in California.
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From lowermanhattan.info: Crane should be gone soon!

*The following information was last updated on January 12, 2011.

* Deconstruction of the building is now on floors 1 and moving downward.
* Tower crane removal takes place January 17-26, 2011.
* The projected end date for deconstruction is late February 2011.
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