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Old August 23rd, 2009, 12:24 AM   #401
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You mean A4
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 12:27 AM   #402
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anyway, looks like both sides (Poland & Ukraine) counter similar problems. as I can understand A4 Kraków-Korczowa is becoming a question mark as well.
Yeah, if they don't start to work on the entire 250km from Kraków to the Ukrainian border within this year, I don't think they'll finish it before Euro 2012. Look at the delays on the Kraków - Tarnów section for instance, which is only a small portion of the entire route east of Kraków.

By the way, that master plan about a 2x4 1400 km east-west motorway through Ukraine seems to have been disappeard completely.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 12:30 AM   #403
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2X4 ? Isn't that a bit of a waste ? 2X2 will be enough, with 2X3 in Donbas
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 12:43 AM   #404
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Yeah, if they don't start to work on the entire 250km from Kraków to the Ukrainian border within this year, I don't think they'll finish it before Euro 2012....
I am afraid "the damage" is already irrecoverable. the only one small thing left to be done is: to annouce it.

now, who and when will do it ?
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 11:41 AM   #405
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To be honest, I don't really believe that at least half of planned motorways for EURO in Ukraine will be realized! The only hope which can remain is E-40 highway that should become a motorway, hopefully!
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 01:51 PM   #406
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To be honest, I don't really believe that at least half of planned motorways for EURO in Ukraine will be realized! The only hope which can remain is E-40 highway that should become a motorway, hopefully!
do we know what is the plan (deadline) for Ukrainian part of E-40 ? would it be a European standard motorway ?
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 02:56 PM   #407
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M-06 stays as it is, dual carriageway without interchanges etc.

E50 motorway + motorway Kiev-Vinnytsa are meant to be main connetions between Kiev and western Europe.

And yes, M-10 E40 will be full flavour motorway
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 03:01 PM   #408
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And yes, M-10 E40 will be full flavour motorway
No.

There are two connections from L'viv westbound to Poland. The northern one, M-10, will be a motorway. The southern one, M-11, where E40 also runs across, will not be a motorway. E40 runs via Przemysl, but I think it will run through the Krakovets border crossing (M-10) in the future.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 03:50 PM   #409
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Anyway, even if E40 will not become a motorway, there will be an alternative one - E50, thanks Mateusz for clearing that, all what will be needed is just to create a motorway between Lviv and Vinnytsa and here we have a good connection with Ukraine from West!
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Well first... it needs to be constructed Yeah a little obstacle...
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Old August 24th, 2009, 12:50 AM   #411
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Yeah, just a little one Three years to go, I doubt that they'll make it, but I hope they do.
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Old August 24th, 2009, 01:22 AM   #412
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I found a really big map of Ukraine an triedd put motorways and dual carriageways on it, that's what it looks like so far ! Probably more will go on it actually

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Red = motorway and blue = dual carriageway? Or the other way around?
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Red = motorway and blue = dual carriageway?
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Yes.
maybe, you should point the hostcities (official and reserve in different colours) of the euro 2012 on that map ...
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Old August 24th, 2009, 01:19 PM   #416
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Identyfing dual carraiugeways of Donbas is quite tricky, in some places there is no sattelite picture etc
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Thanks a million for this magnificent map! This lacked here a lot!
So, regarding the map, what is highly important for Ukraine atm is to make a dual carriageway or if they manage a real motorway 1.from Polish border to Lviv; 2.from Lviv to Rivne (and here we have Kyiv and Lviv connected by dual carriageway); 3.from Donetsk both to Kharkiv and Dnipropetrovsk; 4.from Kyiv to Kharkiv (but that's quite impossible if regarding current financial situation in UA, though the idea IMO should be their priority). That's what should be realized unconditionally and without what it would be really hard to make such event as EURO 2012 come successful!
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Connection only between Krakovets - Body planned so M-10 will be 'stand alone' motorway
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Old August 25th, 2009, 09:36 PM   #419
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I can't see the map.
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Old August 25th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #420
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I can't see the map.
Man, neither can I, since today it's gone..
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