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Newcastle Guy · August 26th, 2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nukey

so what... another glass box?
Unless someone says that Guy's tower is structurally a disaster as a working hospital, then why on earth consider re-cladding/destroying it?

Umm, because it's one of the ugliest and most oppressive buildings in central London perhapse?

I really can't believe some people would want to blight London's future architecturally by keeping this. The motto of the London forumer seems to be 'It's not all about height' then why keep this giant turd just because it is 'the biggest' of something? It certainly isn't the best. Mind you the style is brutalist, and let's face it, buildings don't come much more brutal than Guy's, do they?

:sigh: But I suppose it all comes down to opinion. Some people obviously think it is a good building for London. I'm sure there are much better buildings from that era that we could keep instead though. But, that's just my lil' opinion.

deanfwj · August 27th, 2007, 02:42 AM

Be sensible guys, we actually need this hospital I'm from Southwark and it's a lifeline ,quite literally...so it looks like a pile of shite, yeah, but losing a massive part of our infrastructure here in South London for architectural reasons is retarded.

mulattokid · August 27th, 2007, 10:32 AM

^ Agreed! This is where our interest in architecture starts to get silly. Its not even about opinion. I wouldnt even want to consider temporarily closing the tower even for a facelift...its not important enough a project.

MercuryRise · August 27th, 2007, 01:51 PM

they would have to build a new hospital before guys would ever come down for reasons posted above.. so thats atleast 10 years till u even start to see anything happening. lets face it. its here to stay.

Jaeger · August 27th, 2007, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by deanfwj

Be sensible guys, we actually need this hospital I'm from Southwark and it's a lifeline ,quite literally...so it looks like a pile of shite, yeah, but losing a massive part of our infrastructure here in South London for architectural reasons is retarded.

I think any plan would involve replacing the hospitals facilities.

The top floors of Guys are a dental school, whilst most of the Emergency/ Trauma/intensive care areas went to St Thomas's a few years back.

Guys is a specialised cancer centre, and I am sure most of what Guys does would be maintained via new facilities.

El_Greco · August 27th, 2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Guy

buildings don't come much more brutal than Guy's, do they?

And thats exactly why it shouldnt be destroyed.

meerkat · August 28th, 2007, 03:01 AM

I would like to see this building retained in all its 1960's brutality for the simple reason that i work there. How on earth can the tower be transformed into flats when half of the tower is in use? Where would the services (dental etc) be transferred to? Nothing has been said to the staff by management (but then we'd be the last to know of course). I'm going to make enquieries this week from my boss and find out how much truith there is in this.

Stefan88 · August 28th, 2007, 03:20 AM

Just give it a good old clean and replace the metal plant room on the roof. That'd dramatically improve it.
Just don't paint it like the St Georges Tower in Leicester that really does look awful.

RugBurn · August 28th, 2007, 04:14 PM

Nice study Steppenwolf....

DarJoLe · September 24th, 2007, 12:55 PM

AJplus.co.uk
Published 24 September 2007 at 11:43, updated 11:45
NHS seeks architect for hospital’s Brutalist tower

The NHS is on the hunt for an architect to transform the infamous Brutalist tower of Guy’s Hospital in London into an ‘architecturally iconic’ building.
Built in 1974, the 34-storey concrete landmark is thought to be the tallest hospital building in the world, at 143m high.

In an OJEU notice released last Friday, Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust put out a call for a broad-based project management team which will be headed up by either an architect or project manager.

The notice says that the team will ‘review and advise all works associated with the refurbishment of the external structure and facia cladding and fenestration of Guy’s Tower at the Guy’s Hospital.’

The works, the notice continues, would ‘provide an architecturally iconic, structurally sound, sustainable and energy-efficient building compliant with current standards fit for the next 25-30 years’.

The contract, applications for which must be in by 19 October, is scheduled to start in December this year. Completion is pencilled in for November 2010.

For more information see ted.europa.eu

by Max Thompson

El_Greco · September 24th, 2007, 01:05 PM

Give it to Urban Splash or dont touch it at all.

Madman · September 24th, 2007, 01:06 PM

As long as they dont totally whitewash it i'll be happy (its been in need of a nice spruce up for donkey years!), though not a conventional beauty it has a quirky fugly aesthetic i find quite attractive.

Madman · September 24th, 2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Greco

Give it to Urban Splash or dont touch it at all.

They're residential and office developers, they wont be interested in revamping the building to remain as a hospital.

El_Greco · September 24th, 2007, 01:10 PM

Oh...

***Medo*** · September 24th, 2007, 01:22 PM

It would take a miracle to turn Guy's Tower into an ‘architecturally iconic’ building.

delores · September 24th, 2007, 01:33 PM

I find its brutalistic appearance quiet interesting actually cladding it could be a big mistake, Obviously this depends what they come up with....

The Sage · September 24th, 2007, 02:48 PM

Brilliant! I hate the Guy's tower...

potto · September 24th, 2007, 02:58 PM

It`ll def have to relate to LBT, so hopefully LBT will be rising when the design team get down to the detail

Officer Dibble · September 24th, 2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sage

Brilliant! I hate the Guy's tower...

I completely agree - any reclad or external refurb would be an improvement.

johnnypd · September 24th, 2007, 05:04 PM

the guy's hospital site is a mess, not just the tower itself. it really damages the urbanity that surrounds it. wonder how much the NHS would get if they sold the site off.

View Poll Results: Would you support the demolition of Guys Hospital?
Yes! – demolish it completely, it’s a hideous and oppressive building.	270	40.42%
No – but I’d support a renovation, or some kind of reclad/reworking of the structure.	315	47.16%
No – it’s an important and historic piece of architecture and should be left alone.	63	9.43%
Not sure.	20	2.99%
Voters: 668. You may not vote on this poll

August 27th, 2007, 10:32 AM	#63
mulattokid BLAND Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London Posts: 8,427 Likes (Received): 104	^ Agreed! This is where our interest in architecture starts to get silly. Its not even about opinion. I wouldnt even want to consider temporarily closing the tower even for a facelift...its not important enough a project. __________________ Quote: "Everything in life is our fault...but that's not our fault" (By a friend of Quentin Crisp) www.jclodge.com (my singer sisters site) The headlines read: 'another footballer is charged with sexual miscontuct'! Is it pure coincidence that a mans Scrotum resembles a brain - requisite with both hemispheres, and its truncated spinal cord - always in search of sensation? (Mark Joseph 2008)

August 27th, 2007, 01:51 PM	#64
MercuryRise tobemoreanimal Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 217 Likes (Received): 0	they would have to build a new hospital before guys would ever come down for reasons posted above.. so thats atleast 10 years till u even start to see anything happening. lets face it. its here to stay. __________________ Because East London is a Vampire it sucks the joy right out of me. Bloc Party

August 28th, 2007, 03:20 AM	#68
Stefan88 New Nottingham! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nottingham Posts: 11,709 Likes (Received): 15	Just give it a good old clean and replace the metal plant room on the roof. That'd dramatically improve it. Just don't paint it like the St Georges Tower in Leicester that really does look awful. __________________ Stefan's flickr

September 24th, 2007, 12:55 PM	#70
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,675 Likes (Received): 399	AJplus.co.uk Published 24 September 2007 at 11:43, updated 11:45 NHS seeks architect for hospital’s Brutalist tower The NHS is on the hunt for an architect to transform the infamous Brutalist tower of Guy’s Hospital in London into an ‘architecturally iconic’ building. Built in 1974, the 34-storey concrete landmark is thought to be the tallest hospital building in the world, at 143m high. In an OJEU notice released last Friday, Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust put out a call for a broad-based project management team which will be headed up by either an architect or project manager. The notice says that the team will ‘review and advise all works associated with the refurbishment of the external structure and facia cladding and fenestration of Guy’s Tower at the Guy’s Hospital.’ The works, the notice continues, would ‘provide an architecturally iconic, structurally sound, sustainable and energy-efficient building compliant with current standards fit for the next 25-30 years’. The contract, applications for which must be in by 19 October, is scheduled to start in December this year. Completion is pencilled in for November 2010. For more information see ted.europa.eu by Max Thompson __________________ "I can quite confidently and with pride say that if everything goes to plan London 2012 will be the best Olympic Games and will surpass Barcelona and Sydney in terms of atmosphere, style and achievement. And not just about the sport. The whole city and its people will come alive and want to be a part of this. It just feels right." DarJoLe, May 19th 2006.

August 27th, 2007, 02:42 AM	#62
deanfwj Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 40 Likes (Received): 0	Be sensible guys, we actually need this hospital I'm from Southwark and it's a lifeline ,quite literally...so it looks like a pile of shite, yeah, but losing a massive part of our infrastructure here in South London for architectural reasons is retarded.

August 28th, 2007, 03:01 AM	#67
meerkat Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LONDON. Posts: 34 Likes (Received): 0	I would like to see this building retained in all its 1960's brutality for the simple reason that i work there. How on earth can the tower be transformed into flats when half of the tower is in use? Where would the services (dental etc) be transferred to? Nothing has been said to the staff by management (but then we'd be the last to know of course). I'm going to make enquieries this week from my boss and find out how much truith there is in this.

August 28th, 2007, 04:14 PM	#69
RugBurn Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 158 Likes (Received): 0	Nice study Steppenwolf....

September 24th, 2007, 01:05 PM	#71
El_Greco I Like Palm Trees Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 16,758 Likes (Received): 274	Give it to Urban Splash or dont touch it at all. __________________ My Photos : Lisbon\|Madrid\|Rome\|Naples\|London\|Rotterdam\|Fes

September 24th, 2007, 01:06 PM	#72
Madman London 2012 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire / Bloomsbury Posts: 2,856 Likes (Received): 1	As long as they dont totally whitewash it i'll be happy (its been in need of a nice spruce up for donkey years!), though not a conventional beauty it has a quirky fugly aesthetic i find quite attractive.

September 24th, 2007, 01:10 PM	#74
El_Greco I Like Palm Trees Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Posts: 16,758 Likes (Received): 274	Oh... __________________ My Photos : Lisbon\|Madrid\|Rome\|Naples\|London\|Rotterdam\|Fes

September 24th, 2007, 01:22 PM	#75
*Medo* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: London Posts: 18,437 Likes (Received): 108	It would take a miracle to turn Guy's Tower into an ‘architecturally iconic’ building.

September 24th, 2007, 01:33 PM	#76
delores Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,570 Likes (Received): 25	I find its brutalistic appearance quiet interesting actually cladding it could be a big mistake, Obviously this depends what they come up with....

September 24th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#77
The Sage I want my LBT Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Posts: 1,562 Likes (Received): 0	Brilliant! I hate the Guy's tower...

September 24th, 2007, 02:58 PM	#78
potto Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 13,515 Likes (Received): 258	It`ll def have to relate to LBT, so hopefully LBT will be rising when the design team get down to the detail

September 24th, 2007, 05:04 PM	#80
johnnypd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle/Edinburgh Posts: 6,088 Likes (Received): 8	the guy's hospital site is a mess, not just the tower itself. it really damages the urbanity that surrounds it. wonder how much the NHS would get if they sold the site off.

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