#COMPLETED: THE TORCH, 84F Res, 338m (Dubai Marina)

[Dubai-Lover]

Name: The Torch
Location: Dubai Marina
Floors: 84
Height: 345 m
Use: Residential

[Dubai-Lover]

updated emporis accordingly

[beiklopa]

if look closely on the pic, the tower is right at the place of EMAAR/SAHM centre looks funny. hope this tower will be built. its AMAZING

[Dubai_Boy]

Are you guys sure its going to be 345 meters ?

[Dubai-Lover]

this is what the website says and the apartments are already for sale

paultaylorworld - it would be fantastic if you could provide us some names of contractors

how many floors exactly?

[paultaylorworld]

Completion end 2007. Emaar building in front of the Tower has planning for 12 storeys eventually.

Best Sea Views will be at the back of the building obviously higher up.

www.dubaiselect.co.uk

[arfie]

So will the Marina views be better or the Sea view higher up in the building ?

[paultaylorworld]

Architects and Main contractors are Khatib and Alami www.khatibalami.com (one of the biggest in the UAE)

80 Floors at the moment and definitely 345 metres

[Dubai-Lover]

where did the 84 come from then?

can you give us a short list?
G+3 car park+70 res+hc or something, just that we know how many floors the tower will have
how many basements?

[paultaylorworld]

Front of the building and the right hand side that faces the shopping mall and Marina Heights will have the best views (in my opinion).

These will be direct Marina views.

[arfie]

Are you referring to 05 or 04 apartments ?

[DubaiDream]

Originally Posted by paultaylorworld

Completion end 2007. Emaar building in front of the Tower has planning for 12 storeys eventually.

Best Sea Views will be at the back of the building obviously higher up.

www.dubaiselect.co.uk

i assume the contract will explicitly state the size of the building in front of the tower? as well as stating that the sea or marina view will be guaranteed?

furthermore, the last time i spoke to Select someone told me completion end of 08, how comes u have brought it forward one year?
What provisions will the contract have for delayed completion?

[paultaylorworld]

3 Car parking
2 retail + Healthclub and Lobby
68 residential
7 Higher inc maintenance floors

[paultaylorworld]

All the 6,7 and 8 apartments Marina facing have now sold out.
Still have 04 and 05 at the moment.

[arfie]

wow its selling that quick ? 05's are more expensive than 04 so I guess they give better views are my correct ?

[dubaiflo]

tallest block on the planet tallest block on the planet

[paultaylorworld]

....6,7 and 8 of the type 1 on floors 6-21.

The 2 beds on 23- 53 are still available

[arfie]

yes paul refferring to the 2 beds which are obviously higher up. Will the 05 or 04's get the best view ?

[paultaylorworld]

2 bed floor 23-53 best view would be the 04 or the 05. If you look at the floor plan the balconies discect the corner.

[AlMillion]

I think people have a right to a second opinion:

a/ A reliable (i.e. from a powerful Emirati family - his father is a Sheikh) source has told me that The Torch has actually been for sale for over 3 months already (perhaps only in Dubai). That is the reason so many are sold out already. Don't listen to hype about 'only a few left' etc. these are typical tricks.
b/ The same source told me not to buy an apartment in this building as the owners/developers are not 'respectible' (his words, not mine)
c/ It is quite possible that if they do not sell enough apartments or buyers drop out that building work will stop as they do not have sufficient financial backing to complete the tower without pre-selling all (or most of) the apartments - again, his opinion, not mine. If you don't think this can happen, look how behind the Wind Towers are due to insufficient funding.
d/ The views of the sea-facing apartments in the Marina Heights WILL be effected (but the tower won't be as wide as it appears in the picture above) however don't forget the towers to be built alongside the Al Marsa tower ... they are tall as well so you may not get better views from the Torch (hence them saying buy at the back of the building)
e/ Completion date far more likely to be 2008 than 2007
f/ Dubai Select are a brand new company, never filed accounts with Companies House and therefore it is impossible to know whether they will be around in 1 or 2 years! I would always buy through a well established agent or direct.
g/ Notice how they say "80 floors *at the moment*"!!!!!

Am sure PaulTaylor will scoff at my remarks and dismiss them but he's the one trying to get your money ... not me!