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Old May 4th, 2011, 04:05 PM   #14581
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Steve, are these "Official" pics or from an owner.

You will probably tell me you found them on Flickr................
Found them on real estate brokers websites who are offering the units for rent.
So some units have been handed over.
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Old May 4th, 2011, 04:15 PM   #14582
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Found them on real estate brokers websites who are offering the units for rent.
So some units have been handed over.
I am not sure if they are handed over or they just have the keys with no access like Joannides.

Some brokers were marketing Torch apartments months ago.
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Old May 4th, 2011, 04:16 PM   #14583
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Probably like Joannides, owner must have taken photos when showed around and collecting keys.
I am confident that certificate will be in place by the 15th but we shall see.
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Old May 4th, 2011, 04:34 PM   #14584
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Agreed. Getting the cert is probably the one thing the developer will be efficient at.
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Old May 4th, 2011, 06:11 PM   #14585
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Completion end 2007. Emaar building in front of the Tower has planning for 12 storeys eventually.

Best Sea Views will be at the back of the building obviously higher up.

www.dubaiselect.co.uk
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Old May 4th, 2011, 06:20 PM   #14586
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every statement was incorrect there!
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Old May 5th, 2011, 01:00 AM   #14587
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So why did you not use the lady to obtain a list of Owners for the use of The Point IOAB and thus help them in their task.
FYI --Didn't know her then and was less than knowledgable on the dodgy dealings of SG at that time

Don't really know if they have a list to this day to be honest either ? But seeing as i am on LTPP there and signed the Addendum i am not allowed to get involved in IOA -- Good enough answer ?
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Old May 5th, 2011, 10:15 AM   #14588
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Well the poor old Torch has now been moved to the recycle bin along with the rest of us

Here is a classic post I stumbled on, I will remember not to take investment advice from this guy


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Your comfort blanket is that there is a 99% chance that your Torch property will be worth double the value on completion
Sorry Steve, seems you were 99% wrong
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Old May 5th, 2011, 10:25 AM   #14589
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Dubaiselect again

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Originally Posted by paultaylorworld
Completion end 2007. Emaar building in front of the Tower has planning for 12 storeys eventually.

Best Sea Views will be at the back of the building obviously higher up.

www.dubaiselect.co.uk

Oh look, it's our old friend and developer dubaiselect again. Now I wonder where they dissapeared to after everybody bought their units........
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Old May 5th, 2011, 11:29 AM   #14590
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Well the poor old Torch has now been moved to the recycle bin along with the rest of us

Here is a classic post I stumbled on, I will remember not to take investment advice from this guy




Sorry Steve, seems you were 99% wrong
Well the 1% must have been the crash that no one predicted, plus the combination of a 3 year delay by Select of course
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Old May 5th, 2011, 11:34 AM   #14591
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Steve, did you get the email from Exclusive this morning with the pictures? They were showing tenants round. Has the certificate issues been resolved?
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Old May 5th, 2011, 11:52 AM   #14592
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Well the 1% must have been the crash that no one predicted, plus the combination of a 3 year delay by Select of course
3 year delay? I make it 4 years.

The Torch
Launched May 2005, Completed May 2011 - 6 years
Originally planned for handover in Dec 2007
Torch went Force Majeure in Feb 2009

I am glad that torch investors have finally got their investments. If I take the above and apply it to Bay Central, then

Bay Central
Launched Oct 2006, yet to be completed (looks like adding 6 years to this is the way to go especially as hotel tower is just starting)
Originally planned for handover in Dec 2009
Bay Central went Force Majeure in Nov 2010

The Point folks got off lightly - launched April 2006, planned completion for Mar 2008, actually handed over Sep 2009.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 12:10 PM   #14593
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Steve, did you get the email from Exclusive this morning with the pictures? They were showing tenants round. Has the certificate issues been resolved?

Once handover is complete, they are more than happy to allow rental agents in to view the property.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 12:12 PM   #14594
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That is good news, so they have fixed the reported snags then in the apartments this time round. A lesson learnt from the Point handover fiasco.

Did you get any photos of the communal areas, pool, gym, steam rooms etc.
Afraid not. i was really pushed for time so didnt get the chance to take any photos.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #14595
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Once handover is complete, they are more than happy to allow rental agents in to view the property.
Are they free to roam or need to be accompanied?
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Old May 5th, 2011, 12:32 PM   #14596
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Steve, did you get the email from Exclusive this morning with the pictures? They were showing tenants round. Has the certificate issues been resolved?
Yes got all the photos, not sure, Exclusive implied that handovers have commenced.

Good that the tenants they showed around were giving positive feedback
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Old May 5th, 2011, 12:38 PM   #14597
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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:47 PM   #14598
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FYI --Didn't know her then and was less than knowledgable on the dodgy dealings of SG at that time

Don't really know if they have a list to this day to be honest either ? But seeing as i am on LTPP there and signed the Addendum i am not allowed to get involved in IOA -- Good enough answer ?
Now that you know this lady, would you use her to get a list of Owners for The Point and The Torch? I seem to have read some comments made by you regarding dodgy quality and dealings by SG at The Point!! Perhaps, these comments were not made by you but by somebody posting them in your name.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:50 PM   #14599
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Yes got all the photos, not sure, Exclusive implied that handovers have commenced.

Good that the tenants they showed around were giving positive feedback
Talk is cheap!!! Were the tenants signing on the dotted lines too?
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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:55 PM   #14600
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3 year delay? I make it 4 years.

The Torch

The Point folks got off lightly - launched April 2006, planned completion for Mar 2008, actually handed over Sep 2009.
Not really. The Point is still in a terrible shape requiring constant repairs.
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