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[MobtownManiac]

Originally Posted by MasonsInquiries

Yeah, that's about what I expected. What a putz.

[House3780]

Originally Posted by MobtownManiac

Yeah, that's about what I expected. What a putz.

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[MobtownManiac]

Originally Posted by RavensFan0606

please remember, though...

McNair went up against the #1 Defense in the NFL, and on Monday Night Football.

Boller went up against the #29 Defense in the NFL, and the game had less intensity since it was not a division rivalry game.

Hey, that's all fair & good if you want to use single games as a yardstick for a player's abilities. You've got to take those factors into account in such a limited sample. (personally I think by now a MNF game should be a non-issue, but whatever) I personally don't want to do that & wouldn't. My problems with McNair go back to the playoffs & my increased confidence in Boller goes back two years. One player has raised his game to competence while another seems to be on an accelerated decline that is obvious to anyone watching the game.

Point is, McNair is losing games with his turnovers & he's not helping the cause with his inability to throw downfield. Boller still has the ability to stretch the field & can scramble when needed so, for me, he's the obvious choice. Troy Smith likely isn't going to benefit from backing up Boller but I'm afraid it looks like McNair's days are nearing an end.

Billick says McNair's starting this Sunday which is probably the right move to maintain a somewhat cohesive locker room. Bengals' defense is atrocious so maybe McNair can avoid the turnovers & regain some confidence. But if he's still stinking it up out there I don't know how you can keep starting him without losing your own job. And if he doesn't start at least attempting downfield passes he's going to end up on his butt all game long & our offense will go nowhere.

[House3780]

Originally Posted by MobtownManiac

Hey, that's all fair & good if you want to use single games as a yardstick for a player's abilities. You've got to take those factors into account in such a limited sample. (personally I think by now a MNF game should be a non-issue, but whatever) I personally don't want to do that & wouldn't. My problems with McNair go back to the playoffs & my increased confidence in Boller goes back two years. One player has raised his game to competence while another seems to be on an accelerated decline that is obvious to anyone watching the game.

Point is, McNair is losing games with his turnovers & he's not helping the cause with his inability to throw downfield. Boller still has the ability to stretch the field & can scramble when needed so, for me, he's the obvious choice. Troy Smith likely isn't going to benefit from backing up Boller but I'm afraid it looks like McNair's days are nearing an end.

Billick says McNair's starting this Sunday which is probably the right move to maintain a somewhat cohesive locker room. Bengals' defense is atrocious so maybe McNair can avoid the turnovers & regain some confidence. But if he's still stinking it up out there I don't know how you can keep starting him without losing your own job. And if he doesn't start at least attempting downfield passes he's going to end up on his butt all game long & our offense will go nowhere.

I used to be a Billick fan but not anymore.

Billick said one of his mistakes was when Boller was drafted, he gave him no competition for his spot. Billick claimed competition would have driven Boller to be better.

Then comes McNair. As soon as he is signed Billick without question names him the undisputed starter. McNair has a human season but team goes 13 - 3. Consider this though.. we could have easily gone 10 - 6 being that we had 3 last minute wins. Also consider this.. Boller has 4 come from behind ties or victories on his resume so dont say it was solely because of McNair. McNair bombs in the playoffs and this year he is still named the undisputed starter.

He has played about as pathetic as anyone could imagine a quarterback to play, leads the league in fumbles and turnovers despite having only played half of a half a season and yet.. drumroll, following the game, Billick says, no question, McNair is still the starter. Why, I have no clue.

Ive never been a fan of McNair to tell you the truth. People have talked about his "calm" in the pocket, but Ive always said that doesnt look like calmness, that looks like a person who either doesnt know where the hell he is on sunday or just doesnt care cause hes gonna get paid and be the starter no matter how poorly he does.

Case in point.. did anyone notice on the sidelines of their dismantling on Monday night how Steve had the BIGGEST smile on his face while he was joking around with his teammates??? Does that seem like a competitive person who takes winning and losing personally??? Look at the other great quarterbacks around the league and see how they react to a poor individual and team effort.

But its Billick who wants to play him so I blame him. I think hes truly lost control of the team from the MULTIPLE defensive offsides in one game, to people pounding their chests after tackles in a blow out, to people smiling on the sidelines in the middle of a blow out.

I think between the soft coach and their resort of a headquarters the ravens have gotten soft and spoiled.

Im a fan of Boller... When he came here he had no receivers and only one year did he have a good offensive line. With that I think he did reasonably well considering he has a winning record and more TDs than INTs.

Clarence Moore really hurt Bollers reputation because he was a soft receiver who was afraid to get hit over the middle and gave up on routes A LOT giving up interceptions.

I know hes got his problems on the snap (though I think hes improved dramatically). That being said, if Boller can get through the snap and step back, I think hes a much better, more COMPETITIVE quarterback than Steve-Please-Wake-The-Fuck-Up-UR-Supposed-2-B-Playing-Football-Right-Now-Mcnair.

I can only imagine where Bollers development would have been by now if he had been playing.

Is anyone else afraid of what McNairs lousy play is going to do to the development of Clayton and Williams??? they were both MIA on Monday and Clayton has been the whole season.

[MasonsInquiries]

Originally Posted by MobtownManiac

Yeah, that's about what I expected. What a putz.

YOU, sir, can go to hell. you REALLY need a life. now, do me a favor and STOP responding to me. ignorant prick!

i apologize to the members in this forum for saying this, but this guy's the absolute bottom of the barrel....and apparently not too bright either....lol

[MobtownManiac]

You wouldn't have to worry about any replies from me if you didn't address me in the first place, Mensa. One would think that if you felt strongly enough to jump all over someone you'd at least have the balls to explain yourself. Instead all we get is your childish name-calling in soprano. I think the whole exchange speaks for itself. Seek help.

[MasonsInquiries]

no thanks. don't need it. my track record speeks for itself.

by the way, your mom's a "mensa".

[Scba]

imo, if McNair doesn't throw a touchdown pass this week, and the Ravens lose, someone's head is going to roll. I've always liked Billick as a coach, but he's been completely incompetant this year. Maybe he just needs to transfer more power back to the offensive coordinators, but the playcalling has just not been there. And this is a career-saving game for McNair. If he bombs against the Bengals as big as he did against the Steelers, he needs to hang em up. And I don't think that Boller is going to win every game if he comes in, playing in the dink-and-dunk style that Billick has scheming. It's that playcalling that has to go.

[MasonsInquiries]

i agree, the playcalling is horrendous. and like i said a couple of posts back, i'm really not too sure if we can we with NEITHER qb. i have a friend tell me yesterday "WELL, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE WEATHER WAS AWFUL AND IT WAS RAINING AND THE CONDITIONS WERE SLUSHY AND THE FIELD WAS IN BAD CONDITION AND SO ON AND SO ON AND SO ON......". my response to him was one word...bullshit. i believe we're the better team and we should've won the game.

[waj0527]

My Terps beat #8 Boston College last night. Great game. I didn't even recognize that team.

[marc1969]

Ravens lose 21-7

I really don't have an answer for you right now," Ravens coach Brian Billick said. "We have to go back and analyze it and see if we can come up with a better answer than what we've come up with previously."

AUGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!

[Maudibjr]

The Ravens have gone from suck to blow.

[Tricia_Lvs_Baltimore]

There were two sad parts from yesterday. The interception before halftime and the fumble in the fourth quarter when McNair went to throw and the ball didn't go with his hand. He really needs to give it up. No playoffs this year.

[TheGlobalizer]

Fire Billick, bench McNair permanently.

Anything less would be...uncivilized.

[MasonsInquiries]

absolutely. i guess anything's possible, but i'd be really surprised if they got rid of billick before the season was done with. that kinda' thing just doesn't happen too often in the nfl.

[Tricia_Lvs_Baltimore]

Originally Posted by MasonsInquiries

absolutely. i guess anything's possible, but i'd be really surprised if they got rid of billick before the season was done with. that kinda' thing just doesn't happen too often in the nfl.

No, it doesn't. But like you said, anything is possible.

I don't know if you guys seen it, but I was watching Fox45 at 10 last night. They did a poll asking the public who they thought should start at quarterback next week. The results were very surprising:


McNair-8%
Boller-42%
Smith-50%

[Scba]

Yikes! There's no way Troy Smith is starting. He has no experience in the league, and he hasn't practices with the first team offense at all, I'm sure.

[MobtownManiac]

Originally Posted by Scba

imo, if McNair doesn't throw a touchdown pass this week, and the Ravens lose, someone's head is going to roll. I've always liked Billick as a coach, but he's been completely incompetant this year. Maybe he just needs to transfer more power back to the offensive coordinators, but the playcalling has just not been there. And this is a career-saving game for McNair. If he bombs against the Bengals as big as he did against the Steelers, he needs to hang em up. And I don't think that Boller is going to win every game if he comes in, playing in the dink-and-dunk style that Billick has scheming. It's that playcalling that has to go.

I think it's very telling that McNair couldn't get the team within FG range & Boller came in & immediately took the team down the field twice. The playcalling has been horrible, but yardage comes when Boller is behind center. Does the playcalling change? If so, that should have been Billick's first sign that McNair was done - if you can't call the same plays for McNair that you can for Boller, he shouldn't be starting.

Now comes this phantom shoulder injury story. If the shoulder was hurt that badly he shouldn't have played. Smells like a smokescreen.

McNair is done (like I said), the playoffs are gone, and Billick better hope that Boller can execute the gameplan well enough to earn coach at least the possibility of finishing out his contract here. If Bisciotti was pissed about the offense before last year...

[House3780]

Originally Posted by MobtownManiac

I think it's very telling that McNair couldn't get the team within FG range & Boller came in & immediately took the team down the field twice. The playcalling has been horrible, but yardage comes when Boller is behind center. Does the playcalling change? If so, that should have been Billick's first sign that McNair was done - if you can't call the same plays for McNair that you can for Boller, he shouldn't be starting.

Now comes this phantom shoulder injury story. If the shoulder was hurt that badly he shouldn't have played. Smells like a smokescreen.

McNair is done (like I said), the playoffs are gone, and Billick better hope that Boller can execute the gameplan well enough to earn coach at least the possibility of finishing out his contract here. If Bisciotti was pissed about the offense before last year...

Definitely smoke screen... Besides the terrible playcalling AND coaching in general, ive seriously hated the way Billick has handled his interviews. I find it too convenient for McNair to get these injuries FOLLOWING terrible outtings. I dont want to hear him saying McNair has to sit cause of a shoulder. I want him to say, McNair freakin sucks, healthy or not, its time for a change.

I see where the team gets it from.. just a whole lot of hot air right now.

I bet Bill Cowher could bring the best out of our players.. Billick doesnt seem to have any passion anymore. And being that he doesnt seem to have any ideas how to fix the team either, hes not bringing anything to the table. I say fire him, bring in Cowher... at least we'll get at least one monday night football game next year despite how bad we suck this year.. the media would eat that up, Cowher vs. Steelers.

I cant think of a better fit for him.. Hes familiar with the AFC North.. plenty of talent on Defense, and the number one thing hed want.. closer to his home in NC (3 hours closer than Pitt at least)

[cgunna]

Troy Smith better get ready....

I hope he gets some reps with the second team in practice starting THIS WEEK.

I just feel like we are going to shut McNair down for the season. (finally)