NOTTINGHAM | Skyline Photos

[danz013]

Originally Posted by COB ROX

Awsome pictures of the goose fair Danz, are the pictures yours ? Colours are amazing. I wish our cities would become more colourful at night. Unfortunately lots of restrictive planning rules. About time they were relaxed !

What was your vantage point (if you took the pictures) it's obviously high.

Looks a great night out, although my days of being spun round like being in a washing machine are over. Well done Nottingham the goose fair is what living in a city is all about. The organisation looks impressive too, trams to take everyone on their homebound journey.

Wonder what the oldest fair is ?

As Stef said the oldest fair is in Hull. I think its about 2 years older...

I took the pictures and they were taken from all over the fair. The high ones were taken from the fairs two big wheels.

Its great organisation, the site is usually a park and ride (for the tram), theres another one a couple of miles away and they use that as the official parking for the fair. Block of a few roads to help the traffic cope... the top of the site turns into blue badge parking its great.

[ranny fash]

Originally Posted by BeestonLad

Yeah its not bad standing right at the top of the ridge, although i thought i might be able to see into Nottingham centre but trees from somewhere (might be highfields) block my view. You can see into nottingham from attenbrough i think - if you look directly down the train tracks you can see the victoria centre or it might be from beeston train station i cant remember its been a while since i noticed!

taken from the foot crossing at the easern end of attenborough nature reserve youth. about 5/6 miles from town

[Stefan88]

Nice pic. How far away is that from the city centre?

[BeestonLad]

Originally Posted by ranny fash

taken from the foot crossing at the easern end of attenborough nature reserve youth. about 5/6 miles from town

yeah thats the one! remember walking back down them tracks late one night from attenborough to beeston train station after getting wasted at my cricket club! very stupid really but not one train passed and took far less time!

[danz013]

Remember this lol...

[WOTZDA POINT]

I see Maid Marions let her self go

[philkeavo]

Is that your girlfriend Danz.....niiice!

On a serious note I think putting Nottingham as the 4th worst place in Britain is simply ludicrous. High crime figures or not you have a vibrant comospolitan city for which you should be rightly proud. Thats why the debates with Leicester threaders are so lively, Leicester aspires to much of what you get right. Tackle your crime and we wont even get close. You do need to tackle it though cos every news report always quotes 'Shottingham' as a gun capital and the just reinforces negative stereotypes to all those who have never actually been to your city.

Lock all the bastards up and throw away the key thats I what I say.

[danz013]

Well said... I totally agree with everything you've just said philkeavo. Crime's something we're actively dealing with.. crime is improving... crimes improving.. we're getting more and more police on the roads.. more of those community wardens, trying to improve areas etc.

We've been debating this for a lot of the day in the skybar.

[Stefan88]

Crime down 12% has to be some achievement IMO.

[philkeavo]

Its the pervading negative stereotype that you have to change, bit like Leicester being seen as dull and parocial, both of which are true in part but on the other hand we are trying to change it with our regeneration plans. Just takes a hell of a long time and frustrates us all. As a region the East Midlands is a powerhouse (and I am being serious here!) but we have no real identity or unifying identity. The debate about the local airport just emphasizes my point.

[danz013]

Thats part of the reason I don't support this three cities campaign. I agree the EMA is a powerhouse... but its a powerhouse because it has three large cities competing to fuel their own economies.. its not a powerhouse because we have some fantasy partnership between all cities.

[philkeavo]

Originally Posted by danz013

fantasy partnership

Stop talking about your luvvverly girlfriend Danz!!!

[WOTZDA POINT]

Originally Posted by danz013

Thats part of the reason I don't support this three cities campaign. I agree the EMA is a powerhouse... but its a powerhouse because it has three large cities competing to fuel their own economies.. its not a powerhouse because we have some fantasy partnership between all cities.

AS you know Danz im not a fan of East Midlands bureaucracy. I favour the individual autonomy of city and county. I believe that encourages the best performance and accountability. And yet there seems to be a move for the pooling of assetts to compete as one single region in a European context.

There seems to be a contradiction in your statement on the one hand acknowledging the East Midlands is a powerhouse through individual endeaver while suggesting in previous posts that Nottingham based East Midlands bureaucracy is good and is needed for the whole region.

I think there may even be an argument that East Midlands bureacracy attempts to equalize development across the whole region which discourages individual competition.

IT is EMDA which is advising cities of their strenghs. Nottingham pharmacuetical, Leicester space & science. Derby engineering. Surely business oportunities are upto individual city's who know their strengths anyway, and to rely on one sector could be damaging in a flexible uncertain economic world.

East Midlands hmmmmmmm It's easier for the politicians of the uk and Europe to account for a region than it is for individual cities. East Midlands Ambulance service ?, East Midlands police ? All the same ? or a realisation that cities have distictive identities and unique advantages and problems.

[danz013]

Originally Posted by COB ROX

AS you know Danz im not a fan of East Midlands bureaucracy. I favour the individual autonomy of city and county. I believe that encourages the best performance and accountability. And yet there seems to be a move for the pooling of assetts to compete as one single region in a European context.

There seems to be a contradiction in your statement on the one hand acknowledging the East Midlands is a powerhouse through individual endeaver while suggesting in previous posts that Nottingham based East Midlands bureaucracy is good and is needed for the whole region.

Cob Rox.. you've never heard me say that? I've always been against this three cities thing. I said it in the EMA thread the other day.. and in the skybar a while back.

Its Lears who wants this tri-city crap.

I have always thought this three cities concept has more benefits for the rest of the region than it does for Nottingham... I feel its something that will hold us back and pull us down.. EMA is a classic example of what we're in for... when we have the chance to grab and take advantage of something the other two cities will moan and say.. oh no.. make it fair... share it..... its not right.. etc..its stupid.. I can imagine a government office relocating to notts or something and the rest of the region complaining that they should get a part of it...

I agree with you entirely mate.. apart from that Nottingham's strength is science in general rather than pharmacuetical... hence the reason were the regions science city, £1b Energy Bill.. Boots... Bio-City etc.

The East Midlands Title lacks any character whatsover.... its practically unpromotable... i'm not supportive of my city becoming part of some "tri-city"... as we've proven over and over again the name EM means nothing to anyone.... and we're doing perfectly fine on our own two feet... it would take years to bring the same amount of character to the East Midlands name that we have in Nottingham... and notts is not exactly the most popular city in the world.

[WOTZDA POINT]

Yes individual city competition not regions. Thats why im also against core cities. Leicester does not need to be lower than Nottingham in city hierarchy terms.

Leicester should only be subordinate to London our capital city.

NB yes i note you are against tri-cities because that would dilute your core city status.

[danz013]

Originally Posted by COB ROX

Yes individual city competition not regions. Thats why im also against core cities. Leicester does not need to be lower than Nottingham in city hierarchy terms.

Leicester should only be subordinate to London our capital city.

NB yes i note you are against tri-cities because that would dilute your core city status.

I'm not really sure how to answer this question... because I don't see your point? They're very different? Nottingham's not held back in any way being a core city?

Leicester is not held back by not being a core city? Its potential is not limited? We don't get any additional funding as a core city...is a self funded group. Leicester can achieve whatever it wants to without being a core city.

This is the thing right... the government has highlighted 8 cities outside of London which it considers will lead the growth of the British Economy? Nottingham was rightly highlighted as one of those cities? Surely.. it makes sense for the government government to push and encourage these cities.

I'm very interested to see what your response is going to be to this.... good discussion by the way.

[WOTZDA POINT]

[QUOTE=danz013;15973982]I'm not really sure how to answer this question... because I don't see your point? They're very different? Nottingham's not held back in any way being a core city?

Leicester is not held back by not being a core city? Its potential is not limited? We don't get any additional funding as a core city...is a self funded group. Leicester can achieve whatever it wants to without being a core city.

This is the thing right... the government has highlighted 8 cities outside of London which it considers will lead the growth of the British Economy? Nottingham was rightly highlighted as one of those cities? Surely.. it makes sense for the government government to push and encourage these cities.

I'm very interested to see what your response is going to be to this.... good discussion by the way.[/QUOTE

Moving discussion over to the skybar. Hmmm your quote wasn't highlighted for some reason ?

[Leicity82]

It's because a bracket is missing from the end [/QUOTE]

[Nottseagle]

Originally Posted by danz013

From Porchester Road

image hosted on flickr

Driving past porchester road, I always thought the Litmus looked very skeletal. No?

[Stefan88]

It looks more like it's made out of steel than concrete from that angle.