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Old September 23rd, 2010, 05:49 PM   #701
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Old September 24th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #702
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i saw many workers in malolos area, working even at night. 10 oclock pm.
working on the pierheads. adding more steels.
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Old September 25th, 2010, 07:03 AM   #703
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kailan lpo itatayo pier sa pampanga? hihintayin ba muna mtapos ang northrail bulakan bago simulan ang papunta clark?
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Old September 26th, 2010, 05:12 PM   #704
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kailan lpo itatayo pier sa pampanga? hihintayin ba muna mtapos ang northrail bulakan bago simulan ang papunta clark?
yep.as far as i know before starting the section 2 of phase 1 (malolos-clark), they will finish first the section 1 of phase 1(caloocan-clark).
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Old September 27th, 2010, 03:19 AM   #705
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yep.as far as i know before starting the section 2 of phase 1 (malolos-clark), they will finish first the section 1 of phase 1(caloocan-clark).
i hope they would do parallel construction like what they do in china and japan, i mean its faster, but more cost efficient even if budgets will tend to balloon at first. philippine construction is too slow because of part 1, part 2, part 3... planning is supposedly measurement... i hope they can think about this...
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Old September 27th, 2010, 03:21 PM   #706
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Project contracting of NorthRail
http://www.sinomach.com.cn/templates...spx?nodeid=166

Communications and Transportation Engineering of NorthRail
http://www.sinomach.com.cn/templates...spx?nodeid=203
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Old September 28th, 2010, 05:34 PM   #707
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i hope they would do parallel construction like what they do in china and japan, i mean its faster, but more cost efficient even if budgets will tend to balloon at first. philippine construction is too slow because of part 1, part 2, part 3... planning is supposedly measurement... i hope they can think about this...
I Agree. Look at the China now, to built a railway they just need a year or 2 years to finish it. How about us? It takes a decade before finish it. or maybe we cannot finish it well.... Oh, Philippines.

Maybe we can buy some 2nd hand trains (with "higaan") in China, I think it is not bad.

What is the highest speed that the train can run when the Northrail opens?
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Old September 29th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #708
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I Agree. Look at the China now, to built a railway they just need a year or 2 years to finish it. How about us? It takes a decade before finish it. or maybe we cannot finish it well.... Oh, Philippines.

Maybe we can buy some 2nd hand trains (with "higaan") in China, I think it is not bad.

What is the highest speed that the train can run when the Northrail opens?
yes we can buy 2nd hand but its better to acquired newer trains,coaches in Indonesia they can manufacture train coaches at more affordable price

Its 100-to 130 kph not too bad its enough to reach clark in 1 hours
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Old September 30th, 2010, 08:13 AM   #709
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I Agree. Look at the China now, to built a railway they just need a year or 2 years to finish it. How about us? It takes a decade before finish it. or maybe we cannot finish it well.... Oh, Philippines.

Maybe we can buy some 2nd hand trains (with "higaan") in China, I think it is not bad.

What is the highest speed that the train can run when the Northrail opens?
why settle for 2nd hand (or are you talking about PNR)?? Northrail will acquire around 20 brand new 4-car trains that will have a max. operating speed of around 130kph...

i have a feeling we'll get the DF11G locomotive... it resembles the train on one of northrail's posters...

from China Railways thread:

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"Z" trains - overnight express, are the best non-CRH trains in China, it usually use DF11G "Pig Head" locomotive, manufacture by CSR Qishuyan Factory, and 25T carriage, manufactuer by BST Sifang, CNR Tangshan, CNR Changchun & CSR Puzhen factory

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why settle for 2nd hand (or are you talking about PNR)?? Northrail will acquire around 20 brand new 4-car trains that will have a max. operating speed of around 130kph...

i have a feeling we'll get the DF11G locomotive... it resembles the train on one of northrail's posters...

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"Z" trains - overnight express, are the best non-CRH trains in China, it usually use DF11G "Pig Head" locomotive, manufacture by CSR Qishuyan Factory, and 25T carriage, manufactuer by BST Sifang, CNR Tangshan, CNR Changchun & CSR Puzhen factory

yes! this is what i am talking for... We can buy some coaches and train heads in China for the Northrail... (not CRH.... )
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 02:02 PM   #711
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when is the target opening for northrail malolos section? what i know is 2013
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 08:05 PM   #712
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good news!! the Sleeper Coaches from JAPAN have arrived...

here are some pics from railfans in the philippines...

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1st class coach





coaches with gold band - 1st class
coaches with white band - 2nd and 3rd class


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Old October 3rd, 2010, 02:33 AM   #713
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what is happening to this project a lot of fuss going on

Northrail contract to be renegotiated

(The Philippine Star) Updated October 03, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The government will renegotiate the multimillion-dollar Northrail contract with the Chinese government, reliable sources have told The STAR.

Manila has notified Beijing about the renegotiation of the contract for what has been criticized as the most expensive railway project in the world. No specific date has been set for the start of the talks.

Launched in 2004, the project was funded mainly with a $400-million loan from China’s Export-Import Bank, with counterpart funding of $103 million from the Philippines. The railway was supposed to be operational by February this year.

Beijing picked one of its state firms, Chinese National Machinery and Equipment Group (CNMEG), as the principal contractor.

The project, which will rehabilitate 80.2 kilometers of the north line of the old Philippine National Railways, is supposed to run from Caloocan City to Malolos, Bulacan and then on to the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport in Clark Field, Pampanga.

CNMEG has received $150 million in advance payment from the Philippine government for the 32-kilometer stretch from Caloocan to Malolos.

Critics have alleged that much of the $150 million ended up as kickback.

CNMEG was awarded the contract without public bidding. Arroyo administration officials said this was allowed in government-to-government deals.

A review of the deal, conducted by the University of the Philippines College of Law, however, disputed this, saying the award violated the Government Procurement Act.

Another flaw cited in the contract by the UP study, which could be among the points to be renegotiated, is a provision giving Chinese courts jurisdiction over disputes regarding the project, instead of courts in the Philippines or a neutral country.

The UP study also noted that the Philippines allowed China’s Eximbank to remit payments from the $400-million loan directly to CNMEG instead of coursing the funds through Philippine authorities.

CNMEG wanted to increase the project cost by another $299.4 million, citing foreign exchange losses, inflation, cost of delays in construction, and changes in the original scope of work. The Arroyo administration had also considered a shift from diesel-powered to electric trains.

The company suspended work on the project in February 2008 when its demand was not met.

As of July 2008, the Philippines had already shelled out P5.4 billion for the project and paid a total of P1 billion in interest payments for the Chinese loan, with nothing to show for it, Sen. Franklin Drilon said at the time.

Senators in the previous Congress had urged former speaker Jose de Venecia Jr., who was described as the principal broker of the project with China, to speak about the deal, including the allegations on the $150-million kickback.

The buyer credit loan agreement was signed in Beijing on Feb. 26, 2004. On Sept. 29, 2004, an initial drawdown of $105 million was made by the North Luzon Railways Corp. The NLRC, a subsidiary of the Bases Conversion Development Authority, has been paying $400,000 in monthly interest for the loan since January 2005.

The National Housing Authority (NHA) has spent some P6 billion to relocate 20,000 families along the railroad tracks. The NHA reportedly needs P2 billion more to relocate another 19,000 families in Pampanga.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 04:42 PM   #715
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Better yet, is that a dog sniffing around (or a small goat grazing) by the sleeping car?
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Better yet, is that a dog sniffing around (or a small goat grazing) by the sleeping car?
a goat.. for grass cutting...

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Unloading of the Sleeper Coaches in Tayuman Yard.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 06:03 AM   #717
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i was in pampanga in san fernando and clark yesterday.
ROW's were cleared.
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that's good news!!

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there's a latest news about the renegotiation of the northrail, increasing costs and a change from DMU to EMU.
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Old October 6th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #720
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RP reviews North Luzon Railways contract with China's CNMEG
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The government is reviewing its contract with a Chinese contractor in rehabilitating the old north line from Caloocan City to Malolos, Bulacan of the Philippine National Railways.

“The contract is being reviewed," Presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda said Monday, referring to the contract between North Luzon Railways Corp. and China National Machinery and Equipment Corp. (CNMEG).

“We don’t know yet the results of the review," Lacierda pointed out, acknowledging that a renegotiation could be one of the recommendations.

Transportation and Communications Secretary Jose de Jesus is handling the review, according to Lacierda.

The $503-million North Rail was supposed to be operational last February, but the 802-kilometer railway project was suspended since 2009 after CNMEG asked the government for additional payment citing inflation and foreign-exchange issues.

On top of its $103-million counterpart money, the Philippines took out a $400 million loan from the Export-Import Bank of China to finance the project.
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/202597/r...h-chinas-cnmeg
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