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Old September 25th, 2009, 07:01 PM   #381
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Nice.

How's Ireland doing with the recession, and it's impact on motorway construction in particular? I thought Ireland was one of the hardest hit countries in Europe.

It's an interesting question. Alot of construction underway will be finished in the next 2 years (not just roads but public transport) - after that, whilst a good bit will remain to be done, not as many projects will start at the same time. Ireland has a stimulus - but it started it before the recession. Hence why alot is being built atm. The stimulus consists of an enormous transport programme called "Transport 21" - www.transport21.ie - this will continue - but at a slower pace after 2011. Also, whilst the country has undoubtedly been hit hard, and for some it's a disaster - it started at a higher base then most. Income levels where so high that even after the recession the country is expected to still be one of the top four richest EU states per capita, at least on paper. Also the country's debt to GDP ratio is only 60% so the country can borrow alot of money. So whilst we are hit perhaps harder then most it's not as bad as it could be. The economy remains fragile but is showing signs of stabilising at this stage.

So we hope that continues and that we don't get into this mess again. This infrastructure will be key to an export driven recovery. Before, in other recessions, everything would be cut immediately. Thankfully some braincells have been growing since then and the importance of putting in good projects is now known.
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Old September 25th, 2009, 07:28 PM   #382
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I think its a little worse TBH

Every government-controlled road scheme (about 100 of them) has been postponed indefinatly, with the most needed few being combined to produce four PPP schemes, which may or may not go ahead.

The big caveat with them is that the government have to pay the land CPO, which they havent the money to do. One of the PPPs was supposed to be Cork - Limerick motorway, but thats already been postponed by several years as the government couldnt afford the CPOs for the 80km route.

The first ppp, the M17/18 Gort to Tuam PPP, is the first one of the four scheduled to go ahead. If it goes ahead, good. If it doesnt, forget any road construction in Ireland for at least 5 years, probably more.
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Old September 25th, 2009, 07:55 PM   #383
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€120m will be spent per month on new roads next year - that's a fact. Of course schemes are going to start.
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Old September 26th, 2009, 10:29 AM   #384
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€120m will be spent per month on new roads next year - that's a fact. Of course schemes are going to start.
The inter urban motorways were not paid off straight away. They are being paid for every year of construction. The same goes for other schemes I assume. I know that the whole 25M was not given for the Castleisland bypass (the rest will be funded next year).

Even the PPP's are a long shot. The general vibe going around now is that no road scheme will start in 2010.
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Old September 28th, 2009, 09:05 PM   #385
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Some Nenagh-Limerick M7 updates:

Overbridge south of daly's cross



The boggy section is still in trouble





A bit further up from it:


View from the overbridge looking south:


Looking north:


Another pic of the overbridge which a few posters wanted to know how it was designed


Approaching the newport interchange which has not been posted up before:


The northbound ramp:


Last but not least there is some wearing course laid on one carriageway below the R504 overbridge:



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Old October 9th, 2009, 01:37 AM   #387
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Progress on the red cow interchage in Dublin.



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Progress on the red cow interchage in Dublin.
On a day when there are no llamas.
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The N7 interchange is virtually complete at this stage.
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The N7 interchange is virtually complete at this stage.
Eh? It's been complete for around 4 months.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 09:05 PM   #391
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Eh? It's been complete for around 4 months.
While it has been essentially finished, there have been cones and lane closures much more recently than that .

some links to M9 construction albums posted on boards.ie

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Old October 17th, 2009, 06:42 AM   #392
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IRELAND’S LONGEST cable-stayed bridge, which spans the river Suir, will be open to pedestrians and sightseers three hours before access is allowed to motorised traffic on Monday.
The new bridge, which is similar in design but, at 465m, is 81m longer than the Boyne Bridge on the M1, is part of the Waterford city bypass, which has been developed at a cost of more than €500 million. It is opening 10 months ahead of schedule.
The bridge is a “distinctive and impressive structure”, according to the National Roads Authority, with “a light and elegant design complementing the river and the surrounding landscape”.
Minister for Arts, Sport and Tourism Martin Cullen and chairman of the National Roads Authority Peter Malone will officially open the bridge at 12.30pm on Monday. Invitees will be taken there by bus.
Following the ceremony, sightseers and pedestrians will be free to wander the length and breadth of the bridge, taking in views of Waterford city and the surrounding countryside, before motorised traffic is allowed across it from about 4.30pm.
The bridge is part of the 23km Waterford city toll-bypass. Charges for using the route are to be €1 for motorbikes, €1.90 for cars and €3.40 for buses and coaches. Goods vehicles pay a maximum of €6.10.
It is expected that 14,000 vehicles will use the route each day, reducing volumes in Waterford city by about 30 per cent and removing up to 12,000 vehicles a day from the city’s quays.
The new route begins at Kilmeadan to the west of the city and crosses the River Suir to tie in with the existing N25 route to Rosslare, Waterford and Cork to the east, at Slieverue village.
The bypass includes a new connection, known as the Western Link, to industrial areas to the southwest of Waterford city. It also links to the M9/N9 and N24 to the Grannagh Interchange.
The route is expected to cut 20 minutes off the journey on the N25 between Cork to the port of Rosslare, via Waterford city. The current N25 route passes along the congested city quays and crosses the River Suir over Rice Bridge.
During work on the scheme, a significant archaeological site was discovered at Woodstown. It was declared a national monument, which necessitated a revised alignment on a section of the route.
The Woodstown site appears to represent a defended riverside settlement, with associated industrial activity.
The artefacts and radiocarbon dating indicate the site likely dates back to the early medieval period, between the 9th and 12th centuries AD.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...256899421.html
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Video of the N25 Waterford bypass taken by wellbutty on boards.ie

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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:40 PM   #395
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Shame about the weather

http://www.flickr.com/photos/feargal...47668/sizes/l/

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The new Suspension bridge built as part of the N25 Waterford bypass opened to traffic on Monday. The structure is 91m longer then the Boyne Suspension bridge and quite a bit taller and it's design is similar though the Suspension strings extend an equal distance from each side.


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Pic by Mfitzy @ boards.ie


The bridge is 461m long and 100m tall.

It spans the River Suir.
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Engineering problems

Some engineering problems on the M7. (from local paper, posted on Sabre)
Perhaps not a good idea to route a motorway through a bog, although as nobody lives there this route reduces the number of houses etc affected.

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Difficulties being experienced on the construction of a section of the M7 between Birdhill and Limerick are now being described as "serious".
Entries in the files at the headquarters of the National Roads Authority (NRA), on the progress of the Limerick-Nenagh M7, which have been compiled by senior engineering staff are describing the problem which has been encountered at Drominboy (Lisnagry) as "serious" raising concerns within the authority on the completion date of the road and its future stability.
Consideration is now being given by the NRA to a contingency plan to divert traffic between Nenagh and Limerick on to section of the old N7 between Birdhill and Annacotty, if a resolution to the difficulties cannot be completed in time for the planned opening of the remainder of the new M7 within the next two months.
Presently most of the remainder of the road - except for this section of bog - has reached the final stages of completion with road lining now in progress as final preparations are made for the opening of the road, ten years after it was first proposed.
While most of the road construction programmes in recent years have been completed several months ahead of schedule, the Limerick-Nenagh road is already running several months behind schedule. The original opening schedule had been set for the final week in May 2009.
Originally it had been anticipated that in common with the general pattern, the road would have been completed and opened ahead of schedule. While there appeared to have been delays at various points and stages in the process, the biggest challenge has been constructing the road through some miles of bogland through three bogs between Birdhill and Lisnagry.
With considerable difficulty the road has now been constructed through most of this terrain after tens of thousands of heavily steel reinforced concrete piles were driven to depths of more than 100 feet in an effort to establish a stable foundation for the road.
The section remaining to be completed is about 1,000 metres in length through a very wet section of bog always known to be "bottomless" and where the warnings were handed down through the generations that it was a "no go area" for man or machinery. Labelled by local residents recalling the familiar song "The Old Bog Road" as "the making of the new bog road" the section in question is through one of the most feared bog terrains in the county close to the Limerick-Tipperary border.
Many stories are told of machinery which ventured on to the bog in the past and were sunk forever.
One story is related of a man who was operating a heavy earth mover close to the bog and when he was finished in the evening a local man advised him not to leave the machine there overnight warning him "it won't be there in the morning".
Ignoring the advice the operator left for home convinced it was nothing more than a tall story, but could not believe his eyes when he returned in the morning to find that the machine had disappeared without trace. The locals maintained that it was not a case of the machine being stolen, but it had been sucked into the wet bog overnight, and was only one of a number of such incidences over the years.
Engineering experts planning and working on the construction of the new road were the latest to ignore the advice of the local farmers and residents in the vicinity of the bog when they warned them about taking the route of the road through the bog which they regarded as very high risk, because of the information which had been handed down through the generations on the lethal nature of the section of bogland believed locally to be "bottomless" and highly dangerous.
It was with a sense of disbelief that they heard the engineers claiming that the challenge ahead for the construction of the "bog road" would present no difficulty after the preferred route for the new M7 between Annacotty and Nenagh through a long stretch of bog was announced. At a cost estimated at several million euro beyond budget, the decision to run the road through the bog, is now being regarded as a major mistake, which has added huge additional cost to the construction.
However, according to the NRA the contract awarded to the construction company, Bothar Hibernian was for "the design and build" of the road, and the NRA will not accept responsibility for the additional costs involved.
A spokesperson for the NRA said "the bog was there when the contractor tendered for the work and nothing has changed to justify additional payments" because it was an already known aspect of the work and it was up to the contractor to take into account when submitting a tender.
The heavy concrete piles support the road through long sections of the bog. However trying to stabilise the piles became a challenge in the worst area because of the wet nature of the terrain and the engineers are insisting on a stable foundation before signing off on the work.
Several thousand cubic metres of maximum strength concrete has now been used to secure the foundation.
A steel reinforced mass concrete 'cap" about 20 sq feet in area and nearly two feet high have been placed on each of the piles. Reinforced concrete has also been used to "tie” the “caps" together establishing a floor or concrete, more than two feet thick over some sections of the bog as the work now continues to resolved the difficulty and complete the road.
With sections of the road ready for opening, and the remainder, with the exception of the stretch of bog, at the final stages of completion, there is a lot of concentration being focused now on the bog, which has become a hive of activity in recent weeks in a final attempt to make the new completion target date of this December.
The NRA is increasingly concerned for the stability of the foundation for this section of the road, to sustain the traffic load over the coming years, and are therefore paying special attention to the progress of the work. They are now putting in place a contingency plan in the event of the work not being completed for the December target date. This will feature the opening of the road between Nenagh and Birdhill, diverting the traffic at the Birdhill intersection back on to the old N7 at the Killaloe roundabout, before rejoining the M7 at Annacotty.
The making of the "new bog road" has all of the ingredients for another version of the popular old song.
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The Dunboyne bypass section of the M3 motorway opened yesterday...supprisingly!
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I can remember drving (or being drove/driven) through the middle of Waterford.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 05:29 PM   #399
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Works at M50/M1 Interchange (Junction 3). The M50 is the ring motorway around Dublin.

M50 NB to, eh, M50 SB - two new freeflow slips.

Pic M50 Traffic Management.






Taken from M1 SB - M50 SB freeflow ramp. Pic M50 Traffic Management.



Two freeflow flyovers nearly ready for November openings...Pic M50 Traffic Mgt.
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Europes longest urban motorway tunnel. It goes from the M50 to outside Dublin Port.



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