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Old January 3rd, 2010, 01:20 AM   #501
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The efficiency of the Eng_UK version is evident..
At least it's proper English.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 02:02 AM   #502
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Eng_US-Median
Eng_UK-Central Reservation.

Its referred to as a median in Ireland.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 02:04 AM   #503
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Yeah!! Ireland's road terms are slightly better than the UK's
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 02:09 AM   #504
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But that doesn't mean I can't call it a central reservation.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 02:16 AM   #505
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I also like the fact that all your number fonts are written in the "English Font" !!!! which I think is good as I always like the way British motorway numbers are written.

You need to get some services built though.
Yeah, maybe Britain could lead by example and go Metric!!

What kind of services are you talking about?
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 02:21 AM   #506
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But that doesn't mean I can't call it a central reservation.
Of course you can call it what you want. But many people won't know what you are talking about, thats all.... I had to google 'central reservation' before I found it to be the equivalent of a 'median'.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 03:03 AM   #507
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Yeah, maybe Britain could lead by example and go Metric!!

What kind of services are you talking about?
Yeah!!! go metric!!

In the UK, "services" refers to motorway service areas with gas (petrol) stations, restaurants and or hotel/motel
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 12:47 PM   #508
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Of course you can call it what you want. But many people won't know what you are talking about, thats all.... I had to google 'central reservation' before I found it to be the equivalent of a 'median'.
It's rather the other way around. Central reservation is the English term. It says what it is and is well-established. Median, however, is ambiguous. The term is better known for other things.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 01:58 PM   #509
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At least it's proper English.
I'm assuming you're the linguistic authority deciding which word is "proper English" and which isn't?
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 01:59 PM   #510
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Yeah, maybe Britain could lead by example and go Metric!!

What kind of services are you talking about?
He means service stations.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 07:26 PM   #511
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Of course you can call it what you want. But many people won't know what you are talking about, thats all.... I had to google 'central reservation' before I found it to be the equivalent of a 'median'.
Come on, most people (especially users of this forum) know what he means.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 07:27 PM   #512
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i do prefer the term "median", but i think both is acceptable.
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 10:44 PM   #513
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How old is the M50?
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Old January 3rd, 2010, 11:34 PM   #514
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How old is the M50?
20 years old this year, I think.

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Old January 4th, 2010, 12:51 AM   #515
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I didn't realize it was that old, thanks
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Old January 4th, 2010, 09:03 AM   #516
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The first section opened in 1990, but it wasn't completed until 2005.
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Old January 4th, 2010, 07:47 PM   #517
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http://www.thepost.ie/newsfeatures/n...010-46526.html

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No major new roads to be started in 2010


For the first year since 1994, no new road schemes will be started by the National Roads Authority (NRA) this year due to budgetary constraints. While four interurban motorways from Dublin to Belfast, Cork, Limerick and Waterford will be completed this year, they are likely to represent the end of a golden age of road building in Ireland. The motorway from Dublin to Galway opened just before Christmas, ahead of schedule.

While planning will continue for advanced schemes, The Sunday Business Post has learned that the NRA, which has existed since 1994, is to suspend a possible 50 per cent of schemes in the early to mid planning stages, because of a lack of funding. The board of the authority will vote on which schemes planning will be suspended on in the next fortnight, and as many as thirty projects may be affected.

The authority expects to complete the tendering for two public/private partnership (PPP) schemes towards the end of 2010, and to sign the contracts on both. These are the Arklow to Rathnew section of theN11 together with the Newlands Cross upgrade on the outskirts of Dublin, and the Gort to Tuam motorway, on theN17/18 in Galway. Construction is expected to start on these projects early in 2011.

Last year, most of the NRA’s funding went towards ongoing work on the inter-urban motorways. The only new project that got underway was the Castleisland bypass in Kerry. There were some major new road and bypass openings, such as the Suir Bridge bypass of the city in Waterford, a new stretch of the M9 from Castledermot to Kilcullen, the motorway from Fermoy to Mitchelstown in Cork, and the Tullamore bypass.

Fred Barry, chief executive of the NRA, said that while the road network has been greatly improved over the last few years, ‘‘an enormous amount of modernisation’’ is still required to provide a safe and efficient network.

‘‘The government has, of course, to deal with an extremely difficult financial situation, so it is no surprise that our funding has been reduced.

We hope that as the economic situation improves, we will be in a position to get construction moving again," he said.

‘‘There are quite a few schemes at an advanced state of planning that will be available to build once the funding position improves. But in light of this situation and the new programme for government, we are suspending planning on some schemes for now."

Barry said that the outlook for many construction companies was very bleak, and he ‘‘really can’t say’’ who will be in a position to bid for road building projects in the future.

‘‘We don’t foresee a shortage of bidders, but some of the international companies may exit the market, and some of the domestic companies may withdraw from the business for one reason or another," he said.

Barry said that while about a third of the national road network will be modernised by the end of 2010, the authority expects to continue working on improving the remaining two thirds ‘‘as quickly as public finances allow’’.

He said the follow-on work that would be continued this year included a mixture of low-cost improvements on secondary roads, single carriageway realignments, and some motorways.

‘‘The mix is towards fewer motorways because the traffic volumes are lower, but that does not diminish the importance of these improvements to the communities affected," he said. Barry also highlighted the knock-on effect the lack of road-building would have on the construction and engineering industry in general, and said it was ‘‘inevitable’’ that some of the expertise in these areas built up in Ireland over the past few years would now be lost.

‘‘The civil engineering industry is suffering badly in this recession, and as road schemes are finishing there are no new schemes for people to move on to. So companies are losing resources and capabilities, and individuals are facing unemployment," he said.

‘‘The industry had become very efficient, with a high level of expertise, and it is now inevitable that some of this expertise will be lost."

However, others believe that while investment in the national road network is important, there now needs to be a swing towards funding the public transport system. Colm Holmes, chief executive of the Chartered Institute of Logistics and Transport (CILT), claimed the only motorways that ‘‘are really needed’’ are those that will be completed this year.

‘‘If you did a cost-benefit analysis of some stretches of these motorways, you may wonder if they were worth building, but they are what the Celtic Tiger has given us," said Holmes. I am not sure if there is a burning need to build the M20 motorway between Limerick and Cork for example - why not just upgrade the road that is already there to a dual carriageway, instead of going to the expense of building a new one?"

‘‘Most of the €34 billion earmarked under Transport 21 will have been spent on motorways, and we will have a fabulous network of these this year that will boost economic activity. But now we need to focus on better public transport interconnections like Metro North, the Dart interconnector and bus services."

But Holmes questioned the need for the western rail corridor, and said ‘‘good bus connections’’ on the improving road system in the west ‘‘would be a lot less costly to run’’.

Noel Brett, chief executive of the Road Safety Authority, said that the improved roads system - and new motorways - would be likely to further reduce road fatalities. ‘‘Motorists using such roads are avoiding towns and villages, as well as pedestrians, so the risks are immediately reduced," he said
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Old January 12th, 2010, 07:46 PM   #518
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Eng_US-Median
Eng_UK-Central Reservation.
Actually on Irish roads we usually use American terms -
"Median" instead of Central reserve
"On/offramps" instead of slip roads
"Interchange" or "Exit" instead of junction

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How old is the M50?
Although the first section opened in 1990, the whole road has now been so thoroughly rebuilt that no original parts remain.
Also, if the proposed Eastern Bypass is ever built, this will extend the M50 even more. But that won't be until 2020 at least.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #519
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Actually, the first section of current M50 opened in 1983 as part of M1. M1 now seems to start at the M50 interchange near the airport.
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Old January 12th, 2010, 10:20 PM   #520
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The boggy section on the Nenagh-Limerick M7 wont be open to traffic until the end of this year. Instead the scheme is going to be partially opened from Nenagh to Birdhill:

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A MAJOR road will not be opened until the end of this year -- more than 15 months behind schedule -- because of a 'bottomless' bog.

The Limerick-Nenagh N7 dual carriageway was due to have been completed in May of last year, but the National Roads Authority (NRA) said it would not be finished until the end of this year because of unforeseen delays.

The 38km route will cost the taxpayer €424m, but the cost of having to construct the route over a seemingly endless bog near the Limerick-Tipperary border will have to be borne by the contractors Bothar Hibernian.

It is understood that tens of thousands of steel-reinforced concrete piles have been driven into Drominboy Bog at Lisnagry to support the road at a cost of millions of euro.

Only a small section of the route traverses the bog, which locals claim is "bottomless".

Local tales include heavy machinery being swallowed by the bog, which is able to absorb huge amounts of rain.

As a result, Sean O'Neill of the NRA said the final 15km of the road would not be completed until the end of the year. He said the problems presented by the rural bog were "the major engineering challenge".

Challenge

"The contractor has to deal with that implication," Mr O'Neill said.

"There is a challenge in the bog area, but that is a known condition. It's not like the bog showed up yesterday. We defer to the contractor as it's their responsibility to get the job done."

Mr O'Neill said that the NRA anticipated that major sections of the route would be open by March.

The project consists of 28km motorway standard and the widening of the Nenagh bypass to dual carriageway standard.

The route, which is hoped will ease traffic congestions in the Mid-West region, has been hindered in recent years over payments to local contractors, staff lay-offs and engineering challenges.
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