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Old February 14th, 2010, 11:51 PM   #561
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Also, corrupt planning law let people build stuff right up to the very edges of the interchange, with little to no scope for a junction upgrade. Hence the really strange layout.
Don't you mean short-sighted planning policy?
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Old February 15th, 2010, 07:35 PM   #562
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Both There are all sorts of corrupt planning deals going on in Ireland.

Case in point: A councillor rezoned a pile of land near Gorey that his mother owned, in full knowledge that CPOs for the Gorey bypass would be buying some of that land. His mother got rich off the taxpayer.
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Old February 16th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #563
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I know that, but that's the way it is all over the world. What about the natives in N America? What about Australia? We could even go further back in history and say that England was taken over and all the natives displaced and subdued by the french...

More recently, looks how many countries lost land and had people displaced in two world wars.

It's one of those things that happened in history and we can't keep pointing back to it and saying this, that etc. It's a fruitless exercise.

We just have to accept that this is the way they are now in this time, and work with that accordingly.

My hope for the future is that there won't even be such a thing as a country! They're completely artificial things made up by humans who like to draw lines on maps.
Well, Considering the recent conflict over the past 30 years, theres a distinction. Obviously, they did not want to remain a part of the UK. Hence the conflict. On top of that was the oppression and racism that they suffered. Put differently, would the British 'accept' Kent as an independent entity if the French came over and took it over?
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Old February 16th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #564
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Well, Considering the recent conflict over the past 30 years, theres a distinction. Obviously, they did not want to remain a part of the UK. Hence the conflict. On top of that was the oppression and racism that they suffered. Put differently, would the British 'accept' Kent as an independent entity if the French came over and took it over?
Well they're currently planning just that for the Port of Dover!
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Old February 17th, 2010, 03:30 AM   #565
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Newry Bypass

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Carnbane Junction







Camlough Road Junction





















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Old February 18th, 2010, 06:39 PM   #566
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M7 Nenagh-Limerick

Near J26 the M7 is complete. Fencing is excellent too.

First five from 2 overbridges
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I took a spin on the M7 off the southbound ramp before noticing security. Sure enough when I came back down the wrong way on the carriageway they were heading south towards me!

Southbound ramp J26












Going back down the wrong way on the southbound carriageway



ADS for J26


I reckon traffic will be forced off here when Birdhill to Nenagh will open on thursday and will have to get on the Nenagh bypass via the roundabouts and the current arrangement.


Here I'm heading up the wrong way on the southbound ramp off J26
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Old February 18th, 2010, 09:07 PM   #567
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A signed E-road In ireland, I thought they didn't do that
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Old February 18th, 2010, 10:47 PM   #568
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A signed E-road In ireland, I thought they didn't do that
E numbers have been starting to appear on Irish signs since 2007.
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Old February 19th, 2010, 07:42 PM   #569
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.. but not with any particular plan. It seems to be only certain contractors who bother. Some new sections have been opened without them.
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Old February 20th, 2010, 02:31 AM   #570
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The UK should show E-routes too. Only fair.
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Old February 20th, 2010, 05:02 PM   #571
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The UK should show E-routes too. Only fair.
The E-route numbers are not much use on an island with an integrated road numbering system (England, Scotland, Wales).

I suppose it could be useful to put them up in N Ireland but I don't think there'd be any massive benefit.

They make plenty of sense on the continent though.
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Old February 25th, 2010, 11:52 PM   #572
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The M20 (Cork to Limerick) motorway is moving a step closer. In reality this, the M11 and the M17/M18 schemes are the last bits of motorway probably needed to be built in this country bar dual carrigeway bypass of Galway City.

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€1bn Cork-Limerick motorway plan a step closer

Thursday, February 25, 2010



PLANS for one of the country’s longest and most expensive motorways linking Cork and Limerick will be lodged with An Bord Pleanála today.



The €1 billion M20 project features:

* 80 kilometres of dual divided motorway.

* 6km of dual carriageway.

* 45km of associated national, regional and local roads

* A motorway service area at Lissard, near Rathduff.

* 46 road bridges, eight river bridges and two railway bridges.

* 33 structures for land or farm access, and 36 major culverts.

Land values along the proposed route and construction costs have not been finalised. But the M3 from Clonee, west of Dublin, to Kells, which is 20km longer and due to open in July, will cost some €1bn.

The M20 will start at the existing Blarney junction and will remain online with the existing N20 to Mourneabbey. The proposed route will then veer east from the existing N20 passing east of Mallow and Buttevant. It will rejoin the existing N20 for about 2km at Velvetstown before again veering to the east.

It will cross the N20 just south of Ballyhea, pass west of Charleville and continue west of the existing N20 until the Croom bypass.

Most of the bypass will be reutilised as part of the new development and the new scheme will terminate near the existing junction at Attyflin, Co Limerick. An oral hearing on the proposed route will be held this summer and subject to funding, construction could start before the end of 2011. The project is being coordinated by Cork County Council and Limerick County Council, with the support of the National Roads Authority.

When the corridor scheme is complete, Cork and Galway will be linked by some 200km of motorway.
There is an incredible amount on online build for the scheme due to a having a ultra wide N20 in places. Chis uploaded these maps on boards.ie

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Old February 26th, 2010, 12:00 AM   #573
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The M7 Nenagh (J26) to Birdhill section is more or less complete, they are actually working flat out last week from what I saw. The lining truck was driving frantically up and down the motorway.





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A river viaduct on the scheme taken by cnocboi

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Old March 11th, 2010, 10:32 PM   #574
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The UK should show E-routes too. Only fair.
It's interesting, because the approach to Euroroutes is opposite in Ireland and the UK. The UK originally said they might post them in the 1970s, and reserved a sign for it, but finally decided not to around a decade ago and scrapped the sign.

In Ireland, we never said we were going to do it, but now we are!

That said, they aren't consistently signed anywhere in Ireland on any route, and there also isn't much point since we're an island, as people have pointed out.

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Both There are all sorts of corrupt planning deals going on in Ireland.

Case in point: A councillor rezoned a pile of land near Gorey that his mother owned, in full knowledge that CPOs for the Gorey bypass would be buying some of that land. His mother got rich off the taxpayer.
You're gonna need to give us a source for this.
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Old March 18th, 2010, 05:46 AM   #575
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A map of M20 Cork Limercik scheme (90km's)

M20 Cork to Limerick Map



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Old March 18th, 2010, 04:29 PM   #576
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M6 pictures

Folks,

Here are some pics of the M6/N6 taken on two occasions over the last four weeks. The start point is the beginning of the scheme at Ballinasloe, finishing up at the Galway terminus.

Ballinasloe East junction, heading west.


Ballinasloe West junction.


Motorway scene, west of Ballinasloe. The quality of the surface is excellent.us


Because of the relatively large distances between junctions, emergency access is provided at a number of locations through these locked gates, which link up with the local road network.


Between Ballinasloe and Athenry.


The scheme is peppered with these little M6 Route Confirmation Signs, which seems to be quite unique, as they're normally appended to the top of a combined distance/confirmation sign on other motorways in Ireland.


J16, Loughrea.


J17, Caughwell, with the M6 snaking away westwards in the distance.


Getting closer to Galway now.


Here is the site of the future J18 with the M17/M18 interchange. You can see the start of the diverge has been laid down as part of the M6 scheme.


...and here's the merge lane at the far side of the future J18. Having this built already will (hopefully) reduce the disruption to M6 traffic when the interchange is built.


1km from the end of the motorway section. I'm not sure all-green looks right here. Maybe a green patch on a blue background would be better to remind folks they're still on the motorway.


J19.


End of the motorway at J19. The scheme continues as the N6 until the junction with the existing Galway/Oranmore bypass.


Approaching the western terminus of the 57 km Galway - Ballinasloe scheme.


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Old March 18th, 2010, 11:30 PM   #577
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Superb quality surfacing! Excellent road. Only gripe would be route confirmation signs are still too small in Ireland - its hard to read the text & distances at high speed but I'm sure this will become more evident as the new M routes establish themselves.
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Only gripe would be route confirmation signs are still too small in Ireland - its hard to read the text & distances at high speed but I'm sure this will become more evident as the new M routes establish themselves.
This isn't really a problem, in my experience.

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Old March 20th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #579
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How is motorway construction in Ireland going now that the economy isn't as red-hot as it was before? Has the Government ramped up construction as stimulus, or have they cut funds and postponed construction of projects?
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How is motorway construction in Ireland going now that the economy isn't as red-hot as it was before? Has the Government ramped up construction as stimulus, or have they cut funds and postponed construction of projects?
Apart from a small 5km bypass in Kerry, no new projects were started in 2009, and there'll probably be none started in 2010 either. Existing schemes to finish the so-called 'major inter-urban routes' (the MIUs) radiating from Dublin will be completed this year. The construction of the MIUs has burned through a large chunk of cash each year since about 2006, so once they're complete we might see a few schemes starting in 2011. These are likely to be built at least partly using private finance (so-called PPP schemes).

Some PPP schemes which may start include:
  • M17/M18 Gort to Tuam on the Atlantic Corridor
  • M11 Gorey - Enniscorthy and N25 New Ross bypass
  • M11 Arklow - Rathnew and N7 Newlands Cross grade separation

Other than that, there may be one or two small schemes started with government money, but the days of spending €1.5 bn/year of government money on roads are gone. The overall transport budget next year is likely to be half this figure, with at least half of it going on public transport improvements.

So no stimulus!

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