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Old June 26th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #921
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We talked about it before here. And I still think thats very strange. They have warning signs in American style, but with European symbols. And the other road signs are European. They are the only country in Europe with diamond shaped warning signs in American style.

Ireland is a member of the EU so I think they should change the warning signs to European triangles.
Why should they? They are just as understandable and changing would be a huge waste of money and Ireland is not exactly in a great situation at the moment. Should Scandinavian warning signs become white?
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Old June 26th, 2011, 02:00 AM   #922
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I don't see any reason for changing the signs tbh. We are very use to them. Have always had them. They are clear to read and it's a bit of a novelty in the EU. I don't see any harm in it. And it would be pointless expense. Also I quite like the yellow shoulders. They are sharper deliniation of the hard shoulder. Just because it is not wider EU practice does not mean there is no merit in a yellow hard shoulder or diamond signage. EU signage is fine. Ireland is an island so it really does not make any difference IMO.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 02:30 AM   #923
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Why should they? They are just as understandable and changing would be a huge waste of money and Ireland is not exactly in a great situation at the moment. Should Scandinavian warning signs become white?
There is no Scandinavian style. Warning signs in Denmark and Norway are white triangles similar to Germany and the UK. Sweden have yellow triangles like they have in Poland and Greece. But the triangles are similar in other countries, some have yellow and others have white. But the different part is Ireland with diamond shaped warning signs in American style. Thev are the only one in Europe. Maybe charming, but is it practical?
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Old June 26th, 2011, 03:03 AM   #924
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There is no Scandinavian style. Warning signs in Denmark and Norway are white triangles similar to Germany and the UK. Sweden have yellow triangles like they have in Poland and Greece. But the triangles are similar in other countries, some have yellow and others have white. But the different part is Ireland with diamond shaped warning signs in American style. Thev are the only one in Europe. Maybe charming, but is it practical?
At the end of the day, it's up to the people of Ireland to decide what signs they want. I personally like them. Sorry if I offended anybody.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 03:22 AM   #925
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Thev are the only one in Europe. Maybe charming, but is it practical?
Can you give at least one reason why is it not practical???

What the hell is wrong with some people from the continent who would like to change and unify everything. British signage is wrong, Irish warning sign are wrong. What next? Changing to the right hand side driving???
Come on guys, don't you have anything else to fix? Maybe hunger in Africa? That would be way better use of money.

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Old June 26th, 2011, 03:29 AM   #926
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They are nice signs. Maybe the the rest of the EU could adopt them? And a yellow hard shoulder too. :P
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Old June 26th, 2011, 10:45 AM   #927
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Can you give at least one reason why is it not practical???

What the hell is wrong with some people from the continent who would like to change and unify everything. British signage is wrong, Irish warning sign are wrong. What next? Changing to the right hand side driving???
Come on guys, don't you have anything else to fix? Maybe hunger in Africa? That would be way better use of money.

I like your style.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 11:31 AM   #928
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But the different part is Ireland with diamond shaped warning signs in American style. Thev are the only one in Europe. Maybe charming, but is it practical?
They are. And you know what? I think that they are better than our triangle ones. The usable area for the symbol is much bigger, the symbols themselves can be larger and thus better serving their purpose.
Maybe it's the rest of Europe that should abolish that weird, french-styled triangles and switch to the nice yellow diamonds?
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Old June 26th, 2011, 11:36 AM   #929
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Diversity is what makes Europe so interesting.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 03:03 PM   #930
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Can you give at least one reason why is it not practical???

What the hell is wrong with some people from the continent who would like to change and unify everything. British signage is wrong, Irish warning sign are wrong. What next? Changing to the right hand side driving???
Come on guys, don't you have anything else to fix? Maybe hunger in Africa? That would be way better use of money.

Agreed . I see no reason to change the Irish signs, if people don't understand them they shouldn't be driving or walking there, and in terms of saftey (unlike below) it isn't gonna make any difference, perhaps even the yellow diamonds are better,


I am in favour of yellow centrelines like the Norwegians though, especially in the UK and Germnay where sometimes you have 2 lanes in each direction divided by a broken line in urban areas. For example theres a road near here (part of Staines High Street) where all the lines are exactly the same

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Maxx Power, (I was gonna guess that your name was Max, but itn't that sopmething from the Simpsons), the Irish use orange signage for roadworks, so I don't see the problem with the colour
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Old June 26th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #931
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Id say the signs are a manifestation of just being different from our nearest neighbour more then anything else. You see this in little things like that. Post boxes painted green etc... Id say that is why they were used in the first place. You do find little niche differences like this particularly in countries with colonial baggage.


There are illustrations of all the diamond signs here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Ireland

However they came about it's only a harmless novelty in the EU as Chriswolle says.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 07:09 PM   #932
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Or everyone could adopt the American yellow divider line Quite honestly, I don't think there's much benefit to having yellow lines on the shoulder, it doesn't improve anything.
Having yellow center line makes more sense. It can be usefull on one way streets or roads where two carriageway are far apart. Having yellow line on you left (right in Ireland and UK) confirm you are on the correct side.
With yellow shoulder I can't see advantege but nor can I see a handicap in such solution.
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And while we're at it, those yellow triangle signs in Sweden, Poland, etc. should in fact be turned white, and yellow reserved for temporary signs.
In Poland there is no distinction between temporary and permanent warning signs. Warning sign is warning sign. That's it. We have temporary road markings but signs are the same. It makes sense as warning is always warning. Why complicate that?
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Old June 26th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #933
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The UK has temporary road signs (yellow) but the markings are always white
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Old June 26th, 2011, 11:52 PM   #934
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The UK has temporary road signs (yellow) but the markings are always white
In my opinion different color of temporary marking makes a lot of sense. Sometimes it is in place just for few weeks or even days so they can keep the original one and just stick the temporary one on top. Very useful in short projects. With road signs, old ones are just covered.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 03:55 AM   #935
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Certain signs are different.

For example, a speed enforcement sign in Ireland:


Whereas in the U.S:
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:10 AM   #936
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Nice bit of infrastructure in the previous pages, how many vehicles use the port tunnel? I took the bus from the airport in 2007 and it used it on the way into town but didn't on the way out.
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Old June 28th, 2011, 07:11 AM   #937
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The UK has temporary road signs (yellow) but the markings are always white
Not always. They use green strips at times...
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:29 PM   #938
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Really? I didn't know that . For what?
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Old June 28th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #939
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Really? I didn't know that . For what?
More like green reflective bolts fitted into tarmac, I've only seen it in motorways especially when there is start of contraflow.
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Oh green catseyes, those are for junctions
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