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Old October 20th, 2014, 03:36 PM   #1361
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Cork SRR is finished AFAIK. You will see the signage yourself if you drive the M6 or M7 or M9 on your travels, there is one on the M11 too and the ones on the M4 and M1 are all official services AFAIK. There are more on the way.

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The Wicklow service area is the first of the new Applegreen sites to open for business with additional sites in Birdhill, Co Tipperary (M7) , Swords, Co Dublin (M1) , and Lemybrien, Co Waterford (M9), currently under construction. The new garages are so-called super service stations and are located on major inter-urban routes.
To get signage pointing at you online you must supply petrol coffee snacks parking area and toilets 24/7.

From around 6am to 10pm you get the full package.

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The new motorway service stations include a convenience store, car and lorry pumps, ESB electric car charge points, a Burger King, Subway, 
Applegreen's own 'Bakewell Kitchen' cafe, Costa Coffee as well as children's play areas and toilets.
I'll have the camera ready next time I drive one.
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Old October 20th, 2014, 03:43 PM   #1362
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Poland is another country where the services have not kept pace with the road building and letting the private sector build them near junctions would save the GDDKiA a whole heap of cash.
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Old October 21st, 2014, 09:45 PM   #1363
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letting the private sector build them near junctions would save the GDDKiA a whole heap of cash.
It's similar in Serbia, where at many junctions on A1 between Beograd and Niš there is a restaurant.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 04:05 PM   #1364
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Poland is another country where the services have not kept pace with the road building and letting the private sector build them near junctions would save the GDDKiA a whole heap of cash.
To be fair they are catching fairly quickly.

GDDKiA only builds basic service areas. That means parking bays for cars and HGVs as well as toilets and few benches and tables.
It is more of a safety feature and somewhere for long distance truckers to have compulsory breaks in their driving time.
You have to remember that Poland is a transit country with a huge traffic of the long distance trucks. Something Ireland will never experience.
So it make sense to build a lot more of those stops.
Then on some of them there is space left for petrol station, restaurants and other commercial facilities. GDDKiA then rents them to private operators who build all the commercial stuff for their own money ant then pay rent as well as percentage of sale to GDDKiA.
I think system works fairly well. Initially there were delays with tendering process but now all seems to go OK.
Of course sometimes GDDKiA have too hight rent expectations and no one wants to build services. Then they have to lower their expactations and usually in the following tenders things move ahead

Driving distances in Ireland are much shorter and there simply isn't the long distance truck traffic like in continental Europe. Ireland will never need as many service station as similar sized countries in continental Europe.

Having said that, I would like to see more of the simple areas with toilet and parking. Just for the safety's sake. If theye were located in some scenic spots it would be even better

For fuel and food you could perfectly adopt American system with facilities off the mainline near junctions but with full and clear signage on the mainline.
That way they could also benefit local communities and also be viable in places where motorway traffic would simply not justify them.

And with the recent developments it seems that things are moving in this direction.
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Old October 22nd, 2014, 09:53 PM   #1365
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Hi guys.
I have question about the signage of the offline motorway service areas.

Particularly the newly opened Birdhill Service Area just off the junction 27 on the M7 and the service area in Mayfield just off the junction 14, also on the M7.

Are they clearly signed on the motorway? Or, as they are not official NRA areas, do you have to simply know about their existence?

Oh and the same question about the one on M11 near Wicklow.

Is there any official policy for such developments?
Offline services located at, or very close to, motorway junctions get white-on-brown "Services" advance direction signs, paid for by the developer, typically at 1,500m and 750m before the junction.

Online services get blue-backed signs at 1 km, 500m, and a half-gantry at the exit gore itself, plus another sign showing fuel prices at about 750m out.

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Old November 2nd, 2014, 11:31 PM   #1366
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Check out this drone footage from the last day or two. Shows Newlands X construction (nearly open) plus M50 interchange with the N7 (6.20).

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Old November 4th, 2014, 03:58 AM   #1367
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Cork SRR is finished AFAIK.
Was driving that way a few days ago. I have to say the surface on this scheme is quite uneven. I had a feeling of "floating" rather than driving.

Unfortunately only had a chance to take two photos:




Two more further along the Cork SRR




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Old November 5th, 2014, 01:15 PM   #1368
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Yesterday I drove Castletownbere - Dublin via Macroom. Notes!

The R569 road is a connection between the N71 at Kenmare and the N22 west of Ballyvourney. It's a very useful, good quality and scenic road and could be a candidate for conversion to National Secondary.

The N22 Ballyvourney-Macroom road, often mentioned on Boards, is indeed quite dreadful and in urgent need of replacement.

The N40 Bandon/Sarsfield scheme has narrow lanes and steep inclines and certainly could never be designated a motorway.

At 4:40 pm, traffic was already tailing back over 1 km from the entrance to the Lee tunnel. However, it kept moving, and Dunkettle's traffic lights seemed to operate fairly well. Most traffic didn't continue north to M8 like I did, so the Glanmire bypass was quiet.

The lack of large-scale services on the whole Cork-Portlaoise-Dublin route is a problem.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 05:35 PM   #1369
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The N40 Bandon/Sarsfield scheme has narrow lanes and steep inclines and certainly could never be designated a motorway.
For me the biggest problem with that scheme is quality of the pavement rather than the lane width.
It is simply uneven.

On Sunday, about 4:30pm there was a bit of traffic just before the Dunkettle junction. Most of the traffic was queuing for N25 eastbound rather than going to M8.
Is that usual or some particular event last Sunday?

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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:04 PM   #1370
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The Newlands Cross interchange in Dublin opens to traffic on Thursday. It was the last traffic light on N7-M7.

They did a fine job with this, it was constructed in only one year.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/envir...dule-1.2005573
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Old November 18th, 2014, 10:52 PM   #1371
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They did a fine job with this, it was constructed in only one year.
Fine, but not perfect! The inbound signage is incorrect: it suggests that you need to be in lane 3 for Inchicore, but in reality Inchicore is in the same direction as the City Centre, so lanes 2 or 3 are ok for it too.

This mistake is repeated on the other gantry before the flyover, inbound.

Also, the gantry for the outbound carriageway isn't up yet. I presume they're gonna get that done before opening on Thursday, or motorists will be given no idea of the approaching junction...

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Old November 19th, 2014, 08:15 AM   #1372
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The last gantry will be put up tonight.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 12:19 PM   #1373
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Fine, but not perfect! The inbound signage is incorrect: it suggests that you need to be in lane 3 for Inchicore, but in reality Inchicore is in the same direction as the City Centre, so lanes 2 or 3 are ok for it too.

This mistake is repeated on the other gantry before the flyover, inbound.
That is unlikely to have been a mistake.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 06:37 AM   #1374
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It's open today! Well done all involved.
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Old November 20th, 2014, 09:21 PM   #1375
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That is unlikely to have been a mistake.
Why do you say that? There's not logical reason for Inchicore to be treated like that.

There's at least one other mistake as well: westbound on the mainline, at the merge point of the sliproad, the diagram sign is for a merge with lane gain. There is no lane gain here, so it's incorrect. The temporary road work signs for this are correct, but the permanent one is wrong.

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The last gantry will be put up tonight.
Was still missing this morning.

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Application by the National Roads Authority to redesignate the new N11 Arklow/Rathnew U/C scheme to motorway

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The construction of the €217m New Ross Bypass will not come at a price for local motorists, according to Minister of State Paul Kehoe.

A consortium of Dutch-firm BAM PPP, PGGM and Iridium has been chosen as preferred tender for the project, with work due to begin in mid-2015.

Over 300 men will be employed working on the 13.6km of dual carriageway (N25 and N30 routes) - and 1.2km of single carriageway - New Ross N30 route, and on the new bridge at Pink Rock which will be the biggest in Ireland.

The construction work will be undertaken by a BAM Civil and Dragados joint venture, with hopes that some local contracting firms will be employed throughout the two to three year construction period.

The road will bypass the town of New Ross on the N25 route and link the N25 with the N30 New Ross to Enniscorthy road.

Minister Kehoe said the bypass will remove a major bottleneck on the N25 route for traffic coming from Cork and Wexford.

The National Roads Authority has indicated its intention to use the European Investment Bank's Project Bond Credit Enhancement product as the financing scheme that BAM Iridium will use for the project.

BAM PPP is an operating company of Royal BAM Group, and is responsible for Royal BAM Group's involvement in the public-private partnership (PPP) market. PGGM is a co-operative Dutch pension fund service provider.

The work will involve a bridge over the River Barrow, a railway bridge at Glenmore, dual and single carriageway stretches of road and three roundabouts.

'It's one of the biggest single infrastructure projects ever undertaken in County Wexford. The Enniscorthy bypass is expected to have a preferred tender in place by early 2015, with construction to begin by the end of next year,' Minister Kehoe said adding that once the bypass is completed it will make a world of difference to commuters travelling from New Ross to Waterford and back every day
I would like to find out a bit more about the bridge design. Apparently extradosed (according to folks on boards.ie) but I couldn't find any drawings or renders.
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