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Old July 13th, 2015, 12:30 PM   #1441
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New motorway opening today in Ireland, M11 from Rathnew to Arklow.

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Old July 13th, 2015, 12:39 PM   #1442
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Bye, Bye Jack Whites and The Tap. You will not be missed.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 06:31 PM   #1443
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Word is that the government will announce a 5 year Investment programme in Roads shortly, between now and the end of August. Lots of jockeying to get schemes onto the list. Government to increase capital spending on new road builds by some €100 of Millions a year starting 2017 or _perhaps_ as early as 2016.

Only 6 new schemes I can confirm will be included are:
  • Galway Bypass N6
  • Naas Bypass M7 Widening to 3 lanes as far as the M9 junction.
  • Longford - Ballaghaderreen N5
  • Dunkettle Junction N8/N25
  • Patrickswell-Foynes M22/N69 *rerouted N69 starting from Rathkeale not Limerick *
  • M11 Widening Shankill ( or maybe M25 Sandyford) to Fassaroe near Bray.

The 2 PPP projects already tendered but not at construction will be included too. Both in the South East in Wexford.
Surely the N28 will be included in the next programme? It is part of the overall plan to relocate the Port of Cork and seems to be progressing as planned. The suggestion is that it will be coupled with the Dunkettle upgrade, sort of like the N11/Newlands Cross PPP. The government also has to do something to buy off the people of Cork if they hope to pick up seats there in the next GE.

Has any preliminary works started on Longford - Ballaghaderreen? I had the impression that it is being looked at as a series of individual projects rather than one big one. Is it more a case that it will get funding to bring it through planning and design stages and ready for construction at some as yet undefined time (implied to be once design is completed but really it will be up to a future government to put up the big bucks for construction)?

As as above for the M11 widening, has design work started?

The Galway Bypass seems to be advancing but it still has a lot of hurdles to cross before all approvals are achieved. I can see most of the cost of this project over the next five years to be mainly legal and consultant fees.

Certainly the next 2/3 years are looking quite lean as we may only see the PPPs in Wexford and hopefully N28/Dunkettle and N69 in addition to the already approved projects.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 07:46 PM   #1444
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Surely the N28 will be included in the next programme?
I asked my contact about the N28 and the answer was that it may be bundled with Dunkettle (or a 'Phase 1 N28' as far as the Carrigaline Roundabout at any rate) so it was perhaps not listed on its own because of that.

After the Carrigaline Roundabout the attitude is that the port can pay some of the cost of widening to 2+2 if that is ever required ....and the suspicion is the stretch from Carrigaline Roundabout to the Port is just fine the way it is, the bottleneck is north of the Carrigaline Roundabout.

Both Dunkettle and the N28 qualify for 'dibs' on EU Transport/Cohesion funding at around 20-30% of the overall ESTIMATED project cost...but most likely no more than 25% of the total estimated cost. If they later drop Carrigaline - Ringaskiddy 'Phase 2' they get the same amount of EU money anyway it seems.

Seemingly EU Transport/Cohesion funding will not be disbursed for Ireland before 2018 earliest simply because the government made no request for earlier funding. Most EU Transport/Cohesion funding requested out to 2020 is for Dart Underground and only the Dunkettle/N28 and Adare/Foynes projects will qualify for roads funding this side of 2021 when the proposed Medium Term Capital Plan ends.

After 2020 who knows what will happen. It won't be EU funded any more bar a few cycle lanes dotted about.

Some numpties think the EU will pay for the lot...they will in their holes. The days of 70-90% funding for a road project are long gone and only one project was ever 100% funded ...or so I was told.

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Old July 13th, 2015, 10:43 PM   #1445
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Spongebob, any word on the N5 Turlough to Westport & N4 Colonney to Castelbaldwin,
Has any design work even commenced on the M11 Widening?

Also the M7 Naas to Newbridge By-Pass Upgrade Scheme is shovel ready, is this likely to go as a D&B

N5 Ballaghadeereen isnt anywhere near getting planning permission never mind getting built, smae can be said for Galway COB, i the funding purely for consultant fee and purchasing land?
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Old July 14th, 2015, 12:08 AM   #1446
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Spongebob, any word on the N5 Turlough to Westport & N4 Colonney to Castelbaldwin,
Funny enough no. As these are PPP projects ( along with Macroom) they are not technically capital expenditure as such but current expenditure. That may explain why they were not listed on the list I got as much of the procurement is actually done by the PPP section in the Department of Finance who deal with EIB financing etc.

I'd say they will be added back in time for press release day.

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Has any design work even commenced on the M11 Widening?
It is quite trivial once one has a wide grass median to dig up, honest.

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Also the M7 Naas to Newbridge By-Pass Upgrade Scheme is shovel ready, is this likely to go as a D&B
M7 and Sallins Western Bypass Rxxx together. I'd say a DB yes. This is a written commitment to Kerry Group. The M18 Athenry - Gort scheme, likewise, is a written ministerial commitment to the American Chamber of Commerce from 10 years back and they still have the letter from Martin Cullen.

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N5 Ballaghadeereen isnt anywhere near getting planning permission never mind getting built, smae can be said for Galway COB, i the funding purely for consultant fee and purchasing land?
Nope, the Capital Plan is out to 2020 so plenty of time to finish those two ( even with the Galway Bypass being a major national ecomentalist magnet ) and I doubt both will progress as PPP either.

The N5 Ballaghadeereen-Longford scheme is pure political strokery by the Taoiseach and the junior minister for Transport as we all know. It should really go N5 Ballaghadeereen - Carrick on Shannon with the N4 then upgraded to 2+2 or HQDC from Carrick on Shannon to Mullingar over time thereafter. Much better solution for the North West in general.

The N59 Moycullen Bypass is most unlikely to make the 2016-2020 plan...you heard it here first. Far too many priorities elsewhere. N56 Mountcharles-Inver is another one not likely to make it. The land is already bought for those two and is cleared and fenced too may I add.

Also expect the dregs of the NRA 'bad bends' schemes to be relisted AGAIN. I think c.40 out of c.60 are done or the lads are onsite but at least 20 have not started yet and sure why not list them again to make the list look fatter. Most are on National Secondaries.

HTH
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Old July 14th, 2015, 12:30 AM   #1447
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Seemingly EU Transport/Cohesion funding will not be disbursed for Ireland before 2018 earliest simply because the government made no request for earlier funding. Most EU Transport/Cohesion funding requested out to 2020 is for Dart Underground ...
So DU is still on on the table? There was some concern that it may be ditched, with just a tram to the airport in Dublin!
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Old July 14th, 2015, 12:41 AM   #1448
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So DU is still on on the table? There was some concern that it may be ditched, with just a tram to the airport in Dublin!
Yes, DU is kept for a 2018 launch or so. It qualifies EU funding because the only EU core corridor in Ireland runs from Larne to Ringaskiddy (that was officially Larne - Cork until the new Cork port got planning permission in May 2015 so the N28 only qualified for EU funds since May 2015....got it???? ) .

DU bridges that core enabling Cork to Larne freight <cough> I _know_ CIE don't do freight yes </cough>

Opening the tunnel under the park next year is to help 'prove' that an alternative is badly needed. The business case for DU is a tad weak at present and needs fattening up.

There is no real overweening need for an airport link anyway although it would be nice to have one some time and great in Swords.

Palma Airport in Mallorca is the same size as Dublin overall but MUCH busier during its 2 busiest months than Dublin is and it has a MASSIVE bus network emanating in every direction from it. Naturally it has no rail link.

Add another storey to the bus station in Dublin Airport, in time, and we will be tickety boo there.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 12:48 AM   #1449
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Report on the opening of the Arklow - Rathnew section of the M11 from the Irish Times:

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/educa...spot-1.2283675

If the M11 Enniscorthy bypass goes to construction this year, followed eventually by the N11/N25 Rosslare Harbour schemes, the N/M11, which forms part of the E-01 route in Ireland, will be either motorway or expressway for its entire length.

Since the completion of the A8 improvement scheme in Northern Ireland, all of the E-01 route within NI is now either motorway or expressway.

Eventually the entire route between Rosslare Harbour in the south-east of Ireland and Larne Harbour (in the north-east of Northern Ireland) will be motorway/expressway.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 10:43 AM   #1450
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Drive through new section of M11:

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Old July 14th, 2015, 12:43 PM   #1451
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ec.europa.eu/inea/sites/inea/files/cef_brochure_final_web.pdf

Scheme given European Funding

Port of Cork Ringaskiddy Project €12M
Dublin City Centre Resignalling €18M
Dublin Port Alexandra Basin Redevelopment Project €23M
Connecting Port of Shannon Foynes to the Irish Rail Network €0.8M

No sign of DART Underground here, any reason for this?
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Old July 14th, 2015, 02:54 PM   #1452
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No sign of DART Underground here, any reason for this?
I think the funding application is in under the €300Bn Juncker Plan (THIS) not under the ~€150Bn CEF , the Juncker plan is properly known as the EFSI .

http://ec.europa.eu/priorities/jobs-...i/index_en.htm

and see page 2 of this ...sure that might be the Capital Plan

http://nwra.ie/dubh/wp-content/uploa...els-Office.pdf
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and see page 2 of this ...sure that might be the Capital Plan

nwra.ie/dubh/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/NOV-DEC-2014-EU-News-Bulletin-115-Irish-Regions-Brussels-Office.pdf

which bit? there is a very long wish list there, when will it be confirmed which projects are approved for funding.

I understand that the various studies to do with North Fingal/ Dart Underground Business Case and Radial Bus Route Studies are being finalised by the NTA and Irish Rail. Would governement announcements not be premature until the results of these studies are concluded and recommendations made by the Minister by the NTA. This would lead to a delay in Infrastructure announcements until say September?
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Moycullen is mentioned in the Brussel News pdf but you mentioned previously although being shovel ready, it won't make the cut, is that a dept of transport decision?
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Old July 15th, 2015, 01:31 AM   #1455
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Quite a lot of projects are shovel ready or near the end of planning. The Capital Budget won't cover all of them. This is an election plan as much as a capital plan and the N56 Mountcharles - Inver scheme along with the N59 Moycullen Bypass won't win the government any votes ...or decide a government seat.

So even with those two schemes nearer the proverbial shovel than any other ...and their being small and not that dear....they will not be in the plan I hear.

Anyway we will know soon. Won't we.
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Thanks Spongebob, I understand that the various studies to do with North Fingal/ Dart Underground Business Case and Radial Bus Route Studies are being finalised by the NTA and Irish Rail. Would government announcements not be premature until the results of these studies are concluded and recommendations made by the Minister by the NTA. This would lead to a delay in Infrastructure announcements until say September? Any truth to this?
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Old August 1st, 2015, 11:02 AM   #1457
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Few shots from M8, heading south from Fermoy to Cork


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Old August 1st, 2015, 11:11 AM   #1458
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Old August 3rd, 2015, 11:34 AM   #1459
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Few shots from N40 eastbound heading towards the airport exit

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Great pictures - Geogregor. Looking forward to drive around in Ireland this summer!
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