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Old February 13th, 2009, 10:59 PM   #301
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Definitely at NE corner of Mass and College. Also - the SW corner of Mass and Alabama - just across Alabama Street to the west from Marsh / O'Malias. That parking lot needs to be replaced with a new flat-iron.
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Old February 14th, 2009, 12:05 AM   #302
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Let us protest for flat-irons!!
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Old February 14th, 2009, 12:27 AM   #303
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Definitely at NE corner of Mass and College. Also - the SW corner of Mass and Alabama - just across Alabama Street to the west from Marsh / O'Malias. That parking lot needs to be replaced with a new flat-iron.
Why don't we just say they need to be at pretty much any undeveloped intersection along what is left of the diagonals! That includes the soft spoken loner, Fort Wayne Avenue.
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Old February 14th, 2009, 03:26 AM   #304
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Why don't we just say they need to be at pretty much any undeveloped intersection along what is left of the diagonals! That includes the soft spoken loner, Fort Wayne Avenue.
About a year ago, a building by the Zipper Building was up for sale. Cannot remember what happend with it. It had a small triangle lot. My point is maybe some day a neat lot will get snatched up and someone will give the city back a cool Flatiron. I think that small lot was a triangle, either way it looked neat for a cool vision.
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Was on the end of the avenue last night getting some pizza. Had my point and shoot. Thought a few would work here on the board.

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Old March 5th, 2009, 04:36 AM   #306
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I like the cavernous type feel that 3 Mass gives the area. Instead of openness, feels neighborhoody.
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Am I the only one who dislikes the ground level?
They could have done something great with it, like stores and a more interesting entrance.
The entrance looks like a copy of McNivens(or whatever it is called) except stripped of decorations.
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Old March 6th, 2009, 12:07 AM   #308
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Am I the only one who dislikes the ground level?
Um, nope. I've been bitchin' about it for weeks.
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Am I the only one who dislikes the ground level?
They could have done something great with it, like stores and a more interesting entrance.
The entrance looks like a copy of McNivens(or whatever it is called) except stripped of decorations.
Yeah, the ground level is pretty bad. I'm less impressed with the architectural details of this building every day. Sure, the massing and land use are good, but they stopped well short of making this an interesting building.

The fly-through video shows awnings above the retail spaces and some flare sticking out above the main entrance. We'll see how those turn out.
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The fly-through video shows awnings above the retail spaces and some flare sticking out above the main entrance. We'll see how those turn out.
I rewatched the fly-through. I just noticed that the street-level windows are tinted in it. If they do that, so help me... :-)
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I was picturing a wider-more enticing entrance. I had seen the video, and went too fast for me. Maybe There was a way to stop it to take it all in. Still like the big feel of it, but that ground level?
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I rewatched the fly-through. I just noticed that the street-level windows are tinted in it. If they do that, so help me... :-)
Thankfully the odds of that are pretty low! The windows are already in. To tint them now would require pimpmobile-style aftermarket tinting, which doesn't really make sense. Not that tinting makes sense in general....
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Still like this building and the height. When I was downtown at the circle 2 weeks ago, I am still floored that the newer replacement buildings on the circle are so bland, no real dramatic touches. Still like the Germanic looking one. As for this building, at least it is somewhat in the right direction and has some character. I would have went further, but the step is at least not a plain-bad building.
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Still like this building and the height. When I was downtown at the circle 2 weeks ago, I am still floored that the newer replacement buildings on the circle are so bland, no real dramatic touches. Still like the Germanic looking one. As for this building, at least it is somewhat in the right direction and has some character. I would have went further, but the step is at least not a plain-bad building.
What are you talking about?


I do think, that glass bank on the circle needs to be faced in some kind of stone (it doesn't have to be ornate) so it can go with the sort of formal limestone feel.
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This building looks like its giving the middle finger to the near northeast side in the same way the villagio gives the finger to fountain square.I have officially wiped my butt with any respect I had for this building.
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I do think, that glass bank on the circle needs to be faced in some kind of stone (it doesn't have to be ornate) so it can go with the sort of formal limestone feel.
Go to the circle, look at the newer or refaced buildings and that is what I am talking about. If you like the newer ones, or if they were refaced with a newer look, that is my point. I do not like them, I am not going to say that I like them, to act as though everything on the circle is beautiful! Not everything is. Got it?
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This building looks like its giving the middle finger to the near northeast side in the same way the villagio gives the finger to fountain square.I have officially wiped my butt with any respect I had for this building.
Let them finish first. And comparing this to the villagio is a stretch. At least this aligns to the street and is mostly brick.

As for me, I will wait to see the finishing touches to judge.
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Let them finish first. And comparing this to the villagio is a stretch. At least this aligns to the street and is mostly brick.

As for me, I will wait to see the finishing touches to judge.
Your point about aligning to the street is right, but this building definitely isn't mostly brick. :-)

I'd say it's probably 25% brick and 75% EIFS, minus the glass and limestone, of course. The brick is really only on the first 6 floors of the Mass Ave Facade. It's also on the base of the building and there's a tiny bit along New York, but other than that this building is made out of beige EIFS.
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Go to the circle, look at the newer or refaced buildings and that is what I am talking about. If you like the newer ones, or if they were refaced with a newer look, that is my point. I do not like them, I am not going to say that I like them, to act as though everything on the circle is beautiful! Not everything is. Got it?
Which structure?
The one where the English hotel used to be?
I'm confused!
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This building looks like its giving the middle finger to the near northeast side in the same way the villagio gives the finger to fountain square.I have officially wiped my butt with any respect I had for this building.
The Villagio is a cheap ass attempt at 'traditional'.
It looks like suburban traditional.
It is a complete insult to that area.

This, I'm not sure, at least it sort of flows well and is faced with brick.
I am angry that it does not have street level retail.
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