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Old August 16th, 2009, 12:44 AM   #341
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Those architects obviously know what they're doing, whereas the "designers" of 3 Mass, Schmidt (looks like) Ass-ociates do not.

Seriously, Schmidt Associates should be banned from creating another building in Indy.
I actually think 3 Mass Ave is much nicer than that (as far as architecture goes).
Don't you think it is a little much to say such things?
This isn't the greatest design, but it isn't a bad one either.
I think they should have worked on using more brick where they used EIFS and on street level shops but other than that I like the design.
It reminds me of structures in Athens (and I'm not talking about classical).
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Old August 16th, 2009, 08:57 PM   #342
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Is it just me, or does the fenestration on the first floor appear almost to discourage retail? It seems far more suitable for FIRE or other white-collar offices, but it would be hard for me to believe a good restaurant or merchandiser would want to locate there.
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Old September 1st, 2009, 09:31 PM   #343
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Apparently 21 of the 44 units have been "sold". That's nearly half and this building isn't even complete yet. I'd say that is pretty impressive.
If their online unit sales are up-to-date, just one unit has been sold in the four months since Indy Rock's update back on 4/30 (though I noted back then that the majority of those sales occurred near the groundbreaking). Sales on the cheaper floors are good: 17 of 21 units sold on floors 3-5. Sales of the larger, more expensive units are abysmal: just 5 of 23 units sold on floors 6 and above.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 05:10 PM   #344
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If their online unit sales are up-to-date, just one unit has been sold in the four months since Indy Rock's update back on 4/30 (though I noted back then that the majority of those sales occurred near the groundbreaking). Sales on the cheaper floors are good: 17 of 21 units sold on floors 3-5. Sales of the larger, more expensive units are abysmal: just 5 of 23 units sold on floors 6 and above.
Most people in the Indianapolis area dont have a million or so to spend on a home. If they do, most are not urban dwellers. The pricing on any of the recent condo buildings is not practical for the population that actually wants to live downtown. Villagio still has some vacancy....if you look at the properties for sale downtown...you can buy a lot nicer than any of the newer projects in a refurbished building in the wholesale.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 02:22 AM   #345
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I was told that this will not have on-site parking. I thought that the basement part was a parking garage. Just a discussion I had with a local the other day. Seems odd if it is true.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 02:54 AM   #346
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I was told that this will not have on-site parking. I thought that the basement part was a parking garage. Just a discussion I had with a local the other day. Seems odd if it is true.
There's parking. Just go to http://3mass.com/ and click on 'Floor Plans' and you can see that there are two underground parking levels.

Urban Times has a small article this month mentioning that one of the retail spaces on the Mass Ave side has been leased, to open as a "quiet bar" called The Hub.
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There's parking. Just go to http://3mass.com/ and click on 'Floor Plans' and you can see that there are two underground parking levels.

Urban Times has a small article this month mentioning that one of the retail spaces on the Mass Ave side has been leased, to open as a "quiet bar" called The Hub.
Thanks. The person that I was talking to must have been thinking of another building. Seems as though these were the condos in question. Thanks again.
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Old October 6th, 2009, 04:12 PM   #348
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Since there hasnt been a picture posted proper in a while, I snapped this on the way home from school last night

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Old October 21st, 2009, 02:26 AM   #349
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How is this thing coming along? I still feel that it would be something that Austin, Tx. would have. However, it would look nicer, in my opinion.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 03:51 AM   #350
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It pretty much is done. I suppose they're doing plenty of interior work still - and there is supposed to be a new restaurant / lounge going in on the first floor pretty soon. Primarily, they're still trying to sell the upper floor condos at this point. About half of the condos have been sold - mostly on the lower floors, where the lower priced units are located.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 06:03 PM   #351
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Did we talk about the "quiet bar" that's going in on the first floor?

http://www.urbantimesonline.com/?p=786
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 12:26 AM   #352
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Pictutres of 3 Mass from 10/21/2009





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Cruise Ship

I think that it looks like they chopped the top off of a cruise ship and plopped it on top of a building. I like it!
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Something about "the deck", I thought would not have the framing look to it. I thought it would be smooth on the rounded parts.
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Old October 28th, 2009, 06:38 PM   #355
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3 Mass Picture Update 10/28/2009







It seems odd to me that the fire department water supply would be in such a bad place. I think they should have put more emphasis on the entrance of the building. (I suppose that they did have rather limited space, but still...)








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Old October 28th, 2009, 07:02 PM   #356
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Thanks for all of the pics EddieB!

I really like the front-looking shot from above Mass Ave. I think this is easily the best infill the downtown has seen in quite some time.
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The Fire Dept. thing looks odd there.
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Old October 29th, 2009, 11:31 PM   #358
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I wonder if it is against code to put two large planters in the entry way to hide it. I'm sure it is but it would also help bring focus on the entry way.

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Yeah, but there also isn't much room to put planters. The sidewalk is bigger than many in Indianapolis, but this is still rather narrow for most downtown areas.

As for the entire entrance, I think that this building should have had a great permanent glass/stainless awning to really add curb appeal to the condo's. They could have also looked to get the city to let them incorporate the parking divider in front of the entry into some kind of grander entrance walkway...

The building is still great, but I think it could have added more to the community feeling on the street level of Mass Ave.
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Yeah, but there also isn't much room to put planters. The sidewalk is bigger than many in Indianapolis, but this is still rather narrow for most downtown areas.

As for the entire entrance, I think that this building should have had a great permanent glass/stainless awning to really add curb appeal to the condo's. They could have also looked to get the city to let them incorporate the parking divider in front of the entry into some kind of grander entrance walkway...

The building is still great, but I think it could have added more to the community feeling on the street level of Mass Ave.
My guess is that they're not done with the ground level flourishes. There will almost certainly be awnings for the retail spaces, they might just be waiting for businesses to move in. Actually, if you watch the fly-through video on their site, it shows awnings. Interestingly, it also shows a glass awning above the resident entrance -- you may get your wish yet!
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