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Old February 25th, 2013, 07:32 AM   #4321
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good spot view..
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Old February 25th, 2013, 08:48 AM   #4322
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Yeah nice view from the Shenzhen Futin Shangri-la.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 01:04 PM   #4323
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can't wait to see the actual floors rising
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Old February 25th, 2013, 01:31 PM   #4324
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Anyway regarding PIFC, it's again just how amazing those super-columns are. The fact that they're encased in concrete too is going to make them stronger. Similar to the columns in Taipei 101 except it appears these are 2x as large / thick.
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It will be cool to see the concrete supercolumns. (yet still below ground level)
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Old February 25th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #4325
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can't wait to see the actual floors rising
They're just beginning
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Old February 25th, 2013, 04:00 PM   #4326
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Can anyone explain what the advantage(s) of using steel plates in the core instead of rebar is/are?
It allows a steel to steel conection to the supercolumns through the concrete.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #4327
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Great perspective of the project!
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Old February 25th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #4328
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It allows a steel to steel conection to the supercolumns through the concrete.
That can be done with rebar as well, but this is probably easier and stronger.
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Old February 25th, 2013, 10:00 PM   #4329
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That can be done with rebar as well, but this is probably easier and stronger.
right, rebar can do the same but much slower and not as strong as steel-plates.

i believe Burj Khalifa was build with rebar or not? but probably prefabricated cages i guess.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 12:58 AM   #4330
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'Truther' crap deleted.

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Old February 26th, 2013, 03:15 AM   #4331
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The first massive girder was connected (already yesterday) between the two columns on the east side and this morning they started with the second corner diagrid at the south-east corner.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 01:56 PM   #4332
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right, rebar can do the same but much slower and not as strong as steel-plates.

i believe Burj Khalifa was build with rebar or not? but probably prefabricated cages i guess.
I don't remember. Perhaps the Burj Khalifa had more cheap labour at hand to do the rebar.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #4333
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The chinese are hard to beat for access to cheap labour, but if anyone can do it it's the arabs with their modern day slavery.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #4334
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The chinese are hard to beat for access to cheap labour,
is this a joke, or what ?
obviously many foreigners are not aware with what happens here recently with the labour market. wages rised above the affordable threshold of many employers and many qualified or unqualified workers are not willing to work anymore for the same wages as they got a year ago, even for 30-40% more.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:02 PM   #4335
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Very true, Indonesia, Vietnam, and large parts of Africa are the place to be when it comes to cheap labour. But this is offtopic
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Old February 26th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #4336
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is this a joke, or what ?
obviously many foreigners are not aware with what happens here recently with the labour market. wages rised above the affordable threshold of many employers and many qualified or unqualified workers are not willing to work anymore for the same wages as they got a year ago, even for 30-40% more.
No joke, not when half of the worlds manufacturing jobs have relocated to China because of guess what....cheap labour.
So that trend is starting to correct itself at last is it? Good.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #4337
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No joke, not when half of the worlds manufacturing jobs have relocated to China because of guess what....cheap labour.
So that trend is starting to correct itself at last is it? Good.
Not just cheap labor. Qualified labor too. Some manufacturers tried relocating to Indonesia and Vietnam once Chinese workers got 'too expensive'. They came back to China because the conditions in other countries were not good enough. Primarily transport infrastructure and labor pool along with skills.

The story of cheap China is so 90's and, as a matter of fact, it has already pretty much ended. Wages/salaries have been rising 20-30% a year for the past few years. There are many other drivers that attract investment and manufacturing (not talking of textile or sports shoes here). I suggest reading this.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #4338
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Old February 27th, 2013, 06:25 PM   #4339
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Great pics. The idea of the diagonal beams is already visible. Look at those floor beams, this thing is just one block of steel and concrete.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 06:34 PM   #4340
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slowly you can see the shape of the future tower !
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