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Old May 25th, 2015, 01:28 AM   #9181
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The biggest problem with Shenzhen is the attitude of the government. It wants it to be some kind of support center for Hong Kong. At least if you read the official translated press releases and honestly you will remain a middle income city forever if you just think big but act like mediocre support staff.

People keep asking me central planing seems to be working in China . I say no market forces work, State works when it is limited to building infrastructure and when it comes to large scale projects like qianhai states always throughout their history messed up . China simply is no exception.
Except for the fact that Shenzhen will pass Hong kong in gdp this year,its also been nominated to the number one most competitive city in China,It spends 5.5 times as much on innovation than Hong Kong. As well as being one of the worlds largest and fastest growing financial centers. Shenzhen doesnt stand in the shadow of any city.
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Old May 25th, 2015, 03:14 AM   #9182
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People keep asking me central planing seems to be working in China . I say no market forces work, State works when it is limited to building infrastructure and when it comes to large scale projects like qianhai states always throughout their history messed up . China simply is no exception.
I thought Qianhai (along with Shanghai FTZ and other planned free trade test zones) are precisely intended for that purpose i.e. to try out a different system and business environment which would help to generate growth in the future.

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Now this is just completely untrue. As we all know Shenzhen as a whole was one such pilot zone when Beijing decided to go for market economy in the late 70's/early 80's. That's just over 30 years ago. Started in a swampy land with some villages. It has absolutely not been 'messed up'. In fact it is perhaps the greatest success of such planning to date in history.

Will Qianhai FTZ be a success? There aren't any obvious reasons NOT to believe so at the moment.
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Old May 25th, 2015, 05:11 AM   #9183
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Isn't Shenzen and Hong Kong not nearly one City? How many miles are between those two cities? I've heard u can take the Underground Train from one to another!
No. There is a physical border between the two and Shenzhen residents need visas to enter Hong Kong. We don't typically commute from one place to another for work or daily needs.
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Old May 25th, 2015, 05:18 AM   #9184
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Old May 25th, 2015, 02:30 PM   #9185
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What exact spot is this taken from in HK? Is it easy to get there with public transport?
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Old May 25th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #9186
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Old May 25th, 2015, 07:59 PM   #9187
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So when are they going to start on the crown? I haven't seen much progress other than on the cladding recently.
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Old May 26th, 2015, 06:27 PM   #9194
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So when are they going to start on the crown? I haven't seen much progress other than on the cladding recently.
they already started, just look at the top in the last pic
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Old May 27th, 2015, 06:52 AM   #9195
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Old May 27th, 2015, 10:20 AM   #9196
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Old May 27th, 2015, 07:20 PM   #9198
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What exact spot is this taken from in HK? Is it easy to get there with public transport?
Should be one of the villages near Lok Ma Chau, which would be accessible by minibus or regular bus.
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Shenzhen is a paradise for skyscrapers lovers. In some years it's going to have one of the most beautiful skylines in the world.
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