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Old June 3rd, 2010, 11:00 AM   #921
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Naw, shanghai tower will be above grade at the end of this year. I doubt they will even be done foundation work on this by then. That and towers in Shanghai (aside from Wheelock) are usually build retardedly fast.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 11:08 AM   #922
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If that hole on the right is the main tower's, it's like half the Shanghai tower's one in diameter.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 11:18 AM   #923
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I noticed that too, but keep in mind that its different construction that the one of shanghai tower. Shanghai tower has just a circle hole. And here avaible space under ground will include not only this of the shape of the circle but probably almost everything under the concrete structure they constructed, or at least under the part that has this rectangular holes in it.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 11:43 AM   #924
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Nice shots Barry

So this is what top-down-construction look like?
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 01:36 PM   #925
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Nice shots Barry

So this is what top-down-construction look like?
This isn't true top down. The reason for having concrete poured then digging underneath is for support. The land that PAIFC is being constructed on, as well as the land that ST is on, is quite fertile and soft. The concrete at the surface acts as a brace to prevent cave ins. In most structures, steel beams are used, ie, in toweres in Chicago, as the land isn't as soft.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 01:47 PM   #926
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This isn't true top down. The reason for having concrete poured then digging underneath is for support. The land that PAIFC is being constructed on, as well as the land that ST is on, is quite fertile and soft. The concrete at the surface acts as a brace to prevent cave ins. In most structures, steel beams are used, ie, in toweres in Chicago, as the land isn't as soft.
Thanks a lot for the info. We need more comments like those on this thread.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 08:43 PM   #927
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I noticed that too, but keep in mind that its different construction that the one of shanghai tower. Shanghai tower has just a circle hole. And here avaible space under ground will include not only this of the shape of the circle but probably almost everything under the concrete structure they constructed, or at least under the part that has this rectangular holes in it.
ST is being built inside a circular hole that is larger than the tower itself. Here, the hole is smaller than the tower. The cutouts around the hole are where the supercolumns at the corners of the building will be.
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Old June 3rd, 2010, 09:06 PM   #928
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Circle is smaller, but they will dig under the concrete, you can see it allready on the left side of the site.
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Old June 4th, 2010, 12:04 AM   #929
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This isn't true top down. The reason for having concrete poured then digging underneath is for support. The land that PAIFC is being constructed on, as well as the land that ST is on, is quite fertile and soft. The concrete at the surface acts as a brace to prevent cave ins. In most structures, steel beams are used, ie, in toweres in Chicago, as the land isn't as soft.
So how is this not 'true top down'? They've got the dwall in, and all their sub-grade columns are completed. Once this ground-floor slab is cast, they'll begin to build the towers up, whilst they excavate beneath them.

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I like these exchanges! I am reading and learning! Thanks guys!
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Old June 8th, 2010, 12:12 PM   #931
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Old June 8th, 2010, 02:13 PM   #932
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i can't wait to see it up from the ground···the view in the future is just···wow
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Old June 8th, 2010, 03:01 PM   #933
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i can't wait to see it up from the ground···the view in the future is just···wow
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Old June 8th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #934
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Hot tub time machine should do the trick...
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Old June 9th, 2010, 04:11 AM   #935
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or back to the future car do that trick...
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Old June 9th, 2010, 05:26 AM   #936
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This is going to be a great looking cluster of towers.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #937
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Old June 9th, 2010, 10:40 AM   #938
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Well, as usual in those forums he didn't post the source But actually KPF has finally added this project to its website. But no spire again!! So, in the end?


http://kpf.com/project.asp?R=2&ID=163

Client: Ping An Insurance Company
Team: CCDI, Associate Architect
Type: Corporate, Mixed-Use, Retail, Supertall
Size: 4.2 million ft2 / 389,000 m2

Located in Shenzhen’s new CBD, the Ping An International Finance Centre (IFC) will be Shenzhen’s tallest building. With over 100 office floors and a large podium containing retail and conference program, the Ping An IFC will become the physical and iconic center of Shenzhen’s burgeoning CBD. Located on Lot 1 of the Futian District, at the southwest corner of the intersection of Yi Tian Road and Fu Hua Road, the Ping An IFC will connect to neighboring commercial and residential properties, as well as to Shenzhen Line 1 Gou Wu Gong Yuan metro station.

The iconic stone and glass tower will rise at the northeast corner of the site, anchoring the development. The tower’s four principle façades will be sheathed in chevron-shaped stone verticals which will extend from the building’s base. These stone verticals will house perimeter columns and be stitched together at the tower’s four corners by eight-storey diagonal braces.

The tower will be connected to a podium containing retail and conference program to the south. Sheathed in glass and stone, the building will be defined by a large central atrium, which will serve as both a public vestibule and a sun-lit space for meeting, shopping and dining. Five floors of retail shops will terrace away from the tower, forming a large amphitheatre-like space—the new center for the CBD.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 10:48 AM   #939
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Ah so he got those from KPF's site, and he purposely excluded the render with no spire lol.

I don't know, the architect shows no spire, the developer + structural engineer show a spire.....
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Old June 9th, 2010, 01:00 PM   #940
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of course there is going to be a spire......
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