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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:38 AM   #1281
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I hope you are right. None the less, if after Chinese New Year and into the spring there is still no progress, this should be moved to on-hold. Lets face it, other then the bottoming out ceremony, there has been no progress in months. I really hope that this is still a go.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #1282
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patience. it will be built. it will be amazing when finished
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Old January 13th, 2011, 02:49 AM   #1283
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I would maybe have another explanation. The underconstruction subway and Hong Kong Shenzhen Guangzhou express railway are under construction right beside the construction site. Would it be possible that they need to wait for the tunnels to be done and consolidated before going up?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:18 AM   #1284
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I would maybe have another explanation. The underconstruction subway and Hong Kong Shenzhen Guangzhou express railway are under construction right beside the construction site. Would it be possible that they need to wait for the tunnels to be done and consolidated before going up?
sounds possible.... Yann your in Shenzhen maybe ask around. I really don't see this building going on hold. Think about it China's tallest building going on hold, ouch. I might e-mail KPF later on and see if I can get a reasonable answer.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:23 AM   #1285
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sounds possible.... Yann your in Shenzhen maybe ask around. I really don't see this building going on hold. Think about it China's tallest building going on hold, ouch. I might e-mail KPF later on and see if I can get a reasonable answer.
I will. Any chinese here able to find some info in chinese ?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #1286
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I think that the whole pearl river delta will be one giant city in the future.
the UN reported that it would probably become the first megacity in the world (100 million+ people)
Sure, that's plausible;

There are already some good examples on smaller scale such as Randstad in the Netherlands or Ruhrgebiet in DE. One example, "megalopolis" in the northeast seaboard of the US already is arguably the same scale as Yantze and Pearl deltas and Bohai-rim, so it certainly won't be the first.

To call Shenzhen and Hongkong the same CBD though is an entirely different matter, they are about 40 km apart, which is about 3-4 times further than Guanzhou and Foshan. So that will not happened in our lifetime; 100 - 150 years out into the future, possibly.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:17 PM   #1287
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Why never?

You folks in Hong Kong should remember that it is not 37 years left to 1st of July, 2047. What are you planning to do that day?
Cities, probably never (in terms of our perspective, in the foreseeable future that pertains to anyone in the forum's lifetime). It is just an implausible idea in terms of geography and topography. The metropolitan areas, though, are quite likely to be joined together in the decade or two after 2047.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 08:23 AM   #1288
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To call Shenzhen and Hongkong the same CBD though is an entirely different matter, they are about 40 km apart, which is about 3-4 times further than Guanzhou and Foshan. So that will not happened in our lifetime; 100 - 150 years out into the future, possibly.
Sorry but what you said made no sense, there is much city between the centers of HK and Shenzhen.
Only a few a few patches of mountains separate them, and between the patches are many high rises for the most part.
Unless you mean there going to build the city over the mountains i don't think there is much room for growth, so they are pretty much as interconnected now as the cities will ever be, its hard to say if it could ever be considered one city
i mean 100 to 150 years! the cities could be underwater by then, maybe 30 years or less
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Old January 14th, 2011, 09:14 AM   #1289
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January 9 by veryamateurish at Flickr.
What is the structure on the left side of the picture? It seems to be right next to the construction on the same block.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 09:20 AM   #1290
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Sorry but what you said made no sense, there is much city between the centers of HK and Shenzhen.
Only a few a few patches of mountains separate them, and between the patches are many high rises for the most part.
Unless you mean there going to build the city over the mountains i don't think there is much room for growth, so they are pretty much as interconnected now as the cities will ever be, its hard to say if it could ever be considered one city
i mean 100 to 150 years! the cities could be underwater by then, maybe 30 years or less
Have you actually been there before, and you call those high-rises "for the most part"? Perhaps you had a little too much to drink when you wrote this?

By your estimation, then LA and San Diego would be in the same CBD, or San Fran and San Jose? I guess you have never actually lived inside a major city, and every little suburban strip of condos gets you exited?

Do you even know what "CBD" means?
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Old January 14th, 2011, 09:32 AM   #1291
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Sorry but what you said made no sense, there is much city between the centers of HK and Shenzhen.
Only a few a few patches of mountains separate them, and between the patches are many high rises for the most part.
Unless you mean there going to build the city over the mountains i don't think there is much room for growth, so they are pretty much as interconnected now as the cities will ever be, its hard to say if it could ever be considered one city
i mean 100 to 150 years! the cities could be underwater by then, maybe 30 years or less
Since apprantly, you have major troubles with this English term, so let's start with the very basics:

CBD

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The following characteristics are typical of (though not always present in) most CBDs, downtowns, or city centers:
  • houses large public buildings such as libraries, churches, stations and town halls.
  • contains specialist shops and branches of major department stores.
  • contains social amenities such as cinema halls, clubs and theatres.
  • contains little housing, but often hotels.
  • contains little or no industry.
  • contains offices and other professional buildings.
  • contains buildings that tend to be taller than buildings in other parts of the city (because land prices tend to be at a premium, making high-rise buildings economically favourable)
  • has high pedestrian levels and the greatest parking restrictions.
  • (often) is the geographical centre of the settlement.
  • (often) is the area with the highest land value.
  • is well connected by public transport, with large numbers of passengers.
    has high traffic levels.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 10:14 AM   #1292
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Can't wait for this one to be built
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Old January 14th, 2011, 10:19 AM   #1293
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What is the structure on the left side of the picture? It seems to be right next to the construction on the same block.
It's on an opposite block. Kerry Plaza Phase II.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #1294
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Sure, that's plausible;

There are already some good examples on smaller scale such as Randstad in the Netherlands or Ruhrgebiet in DE. One example, "megalopolis" in the northeast seaboard of the US already is arguably the same scale as Yantze and Pearl deltas and Bohai-rim, so it certainly won't be the first.

To call Shenzhen and Hongkong the same CBD though is an entirely different matter, they are about 40 km apart, which is about 3-4 times further than Guanzhou and Foshan. So that will not happened in our lifetime; 100 - 150 years out into the future, possibly.
well they aren't physically connected and therefore they are a megalopolis.
But the UN definition for a megacity is an area that's physically connected with more then 100million people.
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Old January 14th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #1295
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I think that Ping'an International Finance Center has already lost the race against Shanghai tower :-)
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Old January 14th, 2011, 08:26 PM   #1296
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I would maybe have another explanation. The underconstruction subway and Hong Kong Shenzhen Guangzhou express railway are under construction right beside the construction site. Would it be possible that they need to wait for the tunnels to be done and consolidated before going up?
How far are their respective stations from the front door of Pingan centre?
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Old January 15th, 2011, 08:43 AM   #1297
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Remenber Chicago Spire: on hold?
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Old January 15th, 2011, 12:05 PM   #1298
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Remenber Chicago Spire: on hold?
You can't compare the two projects.... The Chicago Spire was a pipe dream. This one will happen for sure. China rising America dying...
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Old January 15th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #1299
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You can't compare the two projects.... The Chicago Spire was a pipe dream. This one will happen for sure. China rising America dying...
I can !!!!!

After party >>>>> on hold
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Old January 15th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #1300
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I can !!!!!

After party >>>>> on hold
patience..

it's being built,just slow for some reasons,let's wait and see
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