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Old June 18th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #1781
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I think they were referring to the foundation piles' holes, no the construction hole.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 06:39 AM   #1782
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BY 1788111


Time for explosion.






What a tough condition for the workers!







Anyway..can't imagine how hard the work is especially in such hot days.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 06:51 AM   #1783
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a smaller size pile.








It is said that the nets are used to prevent workers from slipping into the hole..

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Old June 19th, 2011, 12:15 PM   #1784
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I can't believe those workers are building China's tallest tower like that. They shouldn't be allowed to work half dressed, etc Looks like a fourth world work site. No uniform, no security footwear, no decent gloves, nothing
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Old June 19th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #1785
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You are completely rught. Can't believe that on such a high-tec tower such a working method is used.
The nets are to prevent falling in the hole.....Look at the last photo of the first post, if this guy slips he's death!
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Old June 19th, 2011, 12:47 PM   #1786
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Chill out zorg... these people are obviously working in stifling conditions, trying to keep a bit cool.
Anyway they probably used these same kind of methods to build the great wall, 3 gorges dam, and other stuff so, as you know better than anyone, they get things done. Health and safety = paralysis by analysis.
It must be hell for them working down there, but it's so much more interesting for the likes of us to watch than some big drilling machine. Great pics.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 01:22 PM   #1787
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How do the workers get in and out of the holes?
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Old June 19th, 2011, 01:41 PM   #1788
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They jump in the bucket and get hoisted in and out by the little winch.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 02:37 PM   #1789
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Great pics Konta. I made some calculations and it looks like the holes are something around 20 meters deep at the moment, and they are still digging These mega piles may actually have the length of the regular ones made by pilling rigs. I really didn't expect that..
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Old June 19th, 2011, 03:35 PM   #1790
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You are completely rught. Can't believe that on such a high-tec tower such a working method is used.
The nets are to prevent falling in the hole.....Look at the last photo of the first post, if this guy slips he's death!
I agree, but I appreciate this update bcause of the view inside the holes.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 08:18 PM   #1791
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The weathers hot so their "nakedness" is excusable. : P
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Old June 19th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #1792
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thought they are building such a tall building why are they using old and primitive methods of construction what happened to all the machinery?!
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Old June 20th, 2011, 01:11 AM   #1793
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I'm comparing this project naturally to Shanghai Tower and really can't believe the methods being used and how primitive this all looks! Also why are they tiling around the pile holes?!
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Old June 20th, 2011, 05:04 AM   #1794
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First of all,think about how hot and tough when working in a deep basement with a bad ventilation.

1788111 has talked with the workers.It is an expert team to do such piling work and has worked for many construction sites.I hope they will take good care of themselves.
The pile holes will reach about 70m depth(compared to the ground level) finally.Anyway, thanks those real fighters..
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Old June 20th, 2011, 05:15 AM   #1795
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I'm comparing this project naturally to Shanghai Tower and really can't believe the methods being used and how primitive this all looks! Also why are they tiling around the pile holes?!
1788111 told me that such primitive method still possessed some merits.It is more accurate and safe since it cause less shake than using machines.Additionally,workers are able to get down to the holes to check their quality and condition while you can only estimate or use more high-tech skills(which means more budget) when using machines.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 08:24 AM   #1796
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I honestly don't what the problem is with them having no shirts on? It's not like shirts protect you from anything on a construction site? (except the sun) And they are still wearing steel caps and hard hats. It's not like they are unsafe. A lot of construction workers prefer not to wear shirts if its hot....
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Old June 20th, 2011, 11:51 AM   #1797
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First of all,think about how hot and tough when working in a deep basement with a bad ventilation.

1788111 has talked with the workers.It is an expert team to do such piling work and has worked for many construction sites.I hope they will take good care of themselves.
The pile holes will reach about 70m depth(compared to the ground level) finally.Anyway, thanks those real fighters..
Holy moly! It looks like the holes will be at least twice as deep as they are now

btw guys could you stop discussing the workers clothes? It starts to be annoying, really. After all its China what you have expected - high health and safety standards? And we are here to discuss the construction not the ohs legislations, aren't we?
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Old June 20th, 2011, 10:49 PM   #1798
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The lack of nets and fences is more of an issue than clothing. If you fall in these holes, you're done for.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 11:18 PM   #1799
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The lack of nets and fences is more of an issue than clothing. If you fall in these holes, you're done for.
Can't argue with that. Though at least you'd have a ready dug grave. You're right though, there should be better protection against falling in.
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Old June 20th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #1800
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The biggest concern is asphyxiation, it's amazing how quickly CO2 can build up in a poorly ventilated shaft.
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