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Old October 3rd, 2010, 01:39 AM   #101
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Well I don't think I could ever live in that city. I guess i prefer places like Taiwan, Japan, South Korea or Germany.
You should first visit before making up your mind. I haven't yet met a non-Israeli person who visited Tel Aviv and didn't like it.

Besides, Israelis and Japanese are quite similar (or so I would imagine).
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 01:44 AM   #102
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How so?

I think I would like to visit it on a vacation but I am talking about living
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 02:03 AM   #103
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How so?

I think I would like to visit it on a vacation but I am talking about living
For sure to vacation here is nice! The pace of life here is much slower and much more relaxed than in other cities. The people are some of the most friendly in the world. Then of course there's the beaches, the nightlife, culture, etc. It's much different from any city anywhere in Europe, America, Canada, the Middle East or Japan.

Regarding Japanese/Israelis.... I am going to go partially on assumptions/generalizations (because I know how much you love these) and partially on what I've heard about Japan from the friends/family who visit the country regularly for business and pleasure.

1) We both like sushi.
2) We both like Japan.
3) We are both practical and innovative.
4) We are both scientifically oriented countries.
5) We both come from ancient cultures that value education and respecting elders.
6) We are both very ambitious and hard-working.
7) We are both very unique in Asia (and in the world). You guys are the only Japanese country in Asia and the world; we are the only Jewish country in Asia and the world.
8) We both have our own martial arts.
9) We both have a strong military background.

But I imagine that Israelis are different from Japanese in the sense that we don't have manners (people here are just very blunt and to-the-point), we aren't deferential to authority, we are probably more argumentative, and we tend to put less emphasis on tidiness than people in Japan. We also don't have any appreciation for aesthetics like in Japan.

And lastly, we don't have any similar philsophy to the Japanese philosophy of "Kaizen", which is a pity. I really admire this way of thinking.

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Old October 3rd, 2010, 08:34 AM   #104
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I see. I actually personally don't know anything about Israel other than geo-political issues. I have never met an Israeli in my life either

All I know is they like to bring up old threads to reply to a post from 2007 :P
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 03:13 PM   #105
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Actually, we used to see lots of Israeli people on the streets of Japan until around 2007.
According to the news article of 2007 by Asahi Shimbun, about 67 percent of foreigners who were arrested for illegally selling fake brand-name products or accessories on the streets of Japan were Israelis.

http://www.asyura.com/07/holocaust4/msg/285.html

The reasons behind this was that there is military conscription in Israel and people tend to go on a long holiday abroad after finishing their service.
They go to foreign countries to make money and also to enjoy different cultures/lives, and since they can enter Japan without getting a visa a lot of them used to come to Japan for illegal business&vacation.
But nowadays, probably because of stricter immigration check & expensive yen, they are not seen as often as before.

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Old October 3rd, 2010, 04:51 PM   #106
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I see. I actually personally don't know anything about Israel other than geo-political issues. I have never met an Israeli in my life either
That's unfortunate for you.



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All I know is they like to bring up old threads to reply to a post from 2007 :P
Well, I am the only one that you know who does.

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According to the news article of 2007 by Asahi Shimbun, about 67 percent of foreigners who were arrested for illegally selling fake brand-name products or accessories on the streets of Japan were Israelis.
Yeah, I'm not surprised.

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The reasons behind this was that there is military conscription in Israel and people tend to go on a long holiday abroad after finishing their service.
They go to foreign countries to make money and also to enjoy different cultures/lives, and since they can enter Japan without getting a visa a lot of them used to come to Japan for illegal business&vacation.
But nowadays, probably because of stricter immigration check & expensive yen, they are not seen as often as before.
Good points.
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Actually, we used to see lots of Israeli people on the streets of Japan until around 2007.
According to the news article of 2007 by Asahi Shimbun, about 67 percent of foreigners who were arrested for illegally selling fake brand-name products or accessories on the streets of Japan were Israelis.

http://www.asyura.com/07/holocaust4/msg/285.html

The reasons behind this was that there is military conscription in Israel and people tend to go on a long holiday abroad after finishing their service.
They go to foreign countries to make money and also to enjoy different cultures/lives, and since they can enter Japan without getting a visa a lot of them used to come to Japan for illegal business&vacation.
But nowadays, probably because of stricter immigration check & expensive yen, they are not seen as often as before.
I guess they're all in Tokyo...according to BBC poll japanese don't like Israel but I don't know how accurate that is since..well I've never talked about Israel with other japanese in my life . I can't imagine japanese have a strong opinion on Israel (good or bad) since we don't know alot about it.
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I guess they're all in Tokyo...according to BBC poll japanese don't like Israel but I don't know how accurate that is since..well I've never talked about Israel with other japanese in my life . I can't imagine japanese have a strong opinion on Israel (good or bad) since we don't know alot about it.
Israel and Japan are mysterious to each other it seems. Japan to Israelis is sushi, ninjas and Subaru. Israel to Japan is probably war, fighting and selling fake brand-name products or accessories on the streets of Japan. So lots of work remains to be done.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #110
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Countries that prohibit dual citizenship

Austria Indonesia Pakistan Belgium Iran Papua New Guinea Brunei Japan Peru Burma Kenya Philippines Chile Kiribati Poland China Korea Denmark Latvia Singapore Ecuador Lithuania Solomon Islands Fiji Malaysia Mauritius Thailand
Even if country doesn't allow dual citizenship it doesn't mean that its citizens can't get the second citizenship.

For example I'm from Poland but I live over 5 years in the United Kingdom. Next year I can apply for British citizenship but I don't have to give up my Polish one. So, I'll be Pole with dual citizenship even if my country theoretically ban it. As far as I know Polish authorities don't have the right to take my citizenship apart from exceptional situations like spying or similar.

Law denying dual citizenship only cause problems for countries which ban it, because it makes integration of immigrants more difficult. No everyone want to completely give up important part of their identity. If you accept values and laws of your new country, know culture and language and spend most of your life there why some bureaucrats should ask you to give up some parts of your identity? Doing so they stop better integration in name of what?

I can feel equally Polish and British. Why some authorities should deny me rights to keep both? The idea of single identity in fast changing and mobile world of XXI century is a bit outdated.
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