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metsfan · May 5th, 2008, 02:50 AM

You realize how much of a pain it is to have to sit so far between steps? Shea is -ok- when it comes to that, but the rest of the stadium is totally outdated and needs serious work that isn't worth doing vs new stadium. The vet in philly had huge capacity, but it was cold, dated the year after it was finished, and boring. LFF is much nicer, so is CBP.

- Andy

Carrerra · May 5th, 2008, 05:09 AM

I don't understand why they demolishes Giants Stadium just for parking. Isn't it more money-effective to keep making it used for NY Red Bulls? It's just a little over 30 years old!

Moreover NFL is famous for having extremely small number of playing matches. One NFL team plays just total 16 games a season and this means the number of one team's home games is only 8!!!!!!!!! - In this case the new stadium will, of course, have two clubs using it so the number rises to 16 but that number is still very very small comparing with other outdoor sports such as baseball or association football.

In conclusion they demolishes a 80K stadium which is jut over 30 years old only for parking for 16 match days a year. Yes you can say that they earn money from parking in "349" non match days.

But judging from the picture of the whole complex that GS belongs to, it looks like very remote place so they are very less likely to make revenues in the parking lot which used to be Giants Stadium.

Anyway my conclusion is that it's totally waste of money to tear down the stadium!!!!!!

image hosted on flickr

nyrmetros · May 5th, 2008, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Benn

a renovation would have made way too much sense, and been borderline affordable, totally out of the question.

Join the club on that one!

nyrmetros · May 5th, 2008, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallasbrink

Face it, after Texas Stadium is demolished, this would be the second oldest behind Lambough, which is a legend. A new stadium is needed.

And what's wrong with age that a few rennovations couldn't have fixed?

nyrmetros · May 5th, 2008, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxrok3

To anybody who is complaining about this new stadium being built, please recall a few things. A) This is NOT a publicly financed stadium and the entire cost will be the burden of the Mara/Tisch families and Woody Johnson. Therefore, this is not coming out of the taxpayers wallets.

It's a privately financed stadium deal in name only. The new stadium will be costing the state a few hundred million dollars before everything is said and done. They always do.

nyrmetros · May 5th, 2008, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrerra

I don't understand why they demolishes Giants Stadium just for parking. Isn't it more money-effective to keep making it used for NY Red Bulls? It's just a little over 30 years old!

NY Metrostars are building their OWN stadium in Harrison, NJ. We will have our own PATH stop 2 blocks from the stadium. I'm very happy aboot this.

Carrerra · May 5th, 2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrmetros

NY Metrostars are building their OWN stadium in Harrison, NJ. We will have our own PATH stop 2 blocks from the stadium. I'm very happy aboot this.

What about the public transportaions around the new home ground of NY Red Bulls which is u/c? Are there any metrolines to stop there?

nyrmetros · May 5th, 2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrerra

What about the public transportaions around the new home ground of NY Red Bulls which is u/c? Are there any metrolines to stop there?

Yes. PATH is a subway system that connects Manhattan with New Jersey. There will be a PATH stop 2 blocks away form the new stadium.

Harrison is where the new stadium will be.

Carrerra · May 5th, 2008, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrmetros

Yes. PATH is a subway system that connects Manhattan with New Jersey. There will be a PATH stop 2 blocks away form the new stadium.

Harrison is where the new stadium will be.

How distant are 2 blocks in America in normal case? I can't get a good idea how it is distant

Carrerra · May 5th, 2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrmetros

NY Metrostars are building their OWN stadium in Harrison, NJ. We will have our own PATH stop 2 blocks from the stadium. I'm very happy aboot this.

As a fan of Red Bulls aren't you happier with your team keep playing at a 80K stadium than with at a 27K one just in case of big match which will draw more than the capacity of the new home ground?

Of course I know your team isn't popular that much in NY at the present time but looking out over the next tens of years you might expect Red Bulls will have the day when they are so popular as to need a 80K stadium if you're optimistic enough about the future

In fact as one of football fan, I do envy Giants Stadium which has no athletics tracks which are a serious obstacle to better sightlines and can hold as many as 80,000 people ㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷㄷ In other words you can call it American Camp Nou!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dallasbrink · May 5th, 2008, 06:36 PM

I dont think the Red Bulls want to keep up with paying for a stadium of that size, which is why most if not all the MLS teams are building smaller stadiums.

Soxrok3 · May 6th, 2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nyrmetros

It's a privately financed stadium deal in name only. The new stadium will be costing the state a few hundred million dollars before everything is said and done. They always do.

Do you have any examples to back up your statement, "They always do."? I'm curious.

Dallasbrink · May 6th, 2008, 04:44 AM

Unless he is talking about roads and transportation, then i have no idea what he is talking about

nyrmetros · May 6th, 2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Carrerra

How distant are 2 blocks in America in normal case? I can't get a good idea how it is distant

2 minute walk. Done and dusted.

nyrmetros · May 6th, 2008, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxrok3

Do you have any examples to back up your statement, "They always do."? I'm curious.

www.fieldofschemes.com

nyrmetros · May 6th, 2008, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallasbrink

I dont think the Red Bulls want to keep up with paying for a stadium of that size, which is why most if not all the MLS teams are building smaller stadiums.

Bingo. And even Bob Kraft who OWNS the Patriots, the Revolution, and the stadium itself (thus no extortion rent to be paid by MLS team) realizes that MLS needs 20, 000 seat stadiums.

Soxrok3 · May 6th, 2008, 05:54 AM

Still, on that website it says nothing about any of those teams ever saying they would privately finance their own stadiums with no burden to the public. Those teams never went against anything they promised as far as I have seen.

TalB · May 7th, 2008, 03:33 AM

Hopefully, the new stop by NJ Transit will ease out the traffic that Meadowlands is know to get before and after games around 2015.

nyrmetros · May 9th, 2008, 05:25 AM

2015 ehh? great.

ramvid01 · May 9th, 2008, 07:22 AM

2015? That raillink is to be up and running byt the end of this year/ very beginning of next.

May 5th, 2008, 02:50 AM	#181
metsfan Photographer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Newtown, PA Posts: 661 Likes (Received): 13	You realize how much of a pain it is to have to sit so far between steps? Shea is -ok- when it comes to that, but the rest of the stadium is totally outdated and needs serious work that isn't worth doing vs new stadium. The vet in philly had huge capacity, but it was cold, dated the year after it was finished, and boring. LFF is much nicer, so is CBP. - Andy __________________ Lets Go Mets!

May 5th, 2008, 05:09 AM	#182
Carrerra Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pohang Posts: 1,437 Likes (Received): 2	I don't understand why they demolishes Giants Stadium just for parking. Isn't it more money-effective to keep making it used for NY Red Bulls? It's just a little over 30 years old! Moreover NFL is famous for having extremely small number of playing matches. One NFL team plays just total 16 games a season and this means the number of one team's home games is only 8!!!!!!!!! - In this case the new stadium will, of course, have two clubs using it so the number rises to 16 but that number is still very very small comparing with other outdoor sports such as baseball or association football. In conclusion they demolishes a 80K stadium which is jut over 30 years old only for parking for 16 match days a year. Yes you can say that they earn money from parking in "349" non match days. But judging from the picture of the whole complex that GS belongs to, it looks like very remote place so they are very less likely to make revenues in the parking lot which used to be Giants Stadium. Anyway my conclusion is that it's totally waste of money to tear down the stadium!!!!!! image hosted on flickr Last edited by Carrerra; May 5th, 2008 at 05:18 AM. Reason: Attaching photo and correcting the number of non match days

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May 5th, 2008, 06:36 PM	#191
Dallasbrink BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas/Amarillo TEXAS Posts: 1,105 Likes (Received): 0	I dont think the Red Bulls want to keep up with paying for a stadium of that size, which is why most if not all the MLS teams are building smaller stadiums.

May 6th, 2008, 04:44 AM	#193
Dallasbrink BANNED Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dallas/Amarillo TEXAS Posts: 1,105 Likes (Received): 0	Unless he is talking about roads and transportation, then i have no idea what he is talking about

May 6th, 2008, 05:54 AM	#197
Soxrok3 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 21 Likes (Received): 0	Still, on that website it says nothing about any of those teams ever saying they would privately finance their own stadiums with no burden to the public. Those teams never went against anything they promised as far as I have seen.

May 7th, 2008, 03:33 AM	#198
TalB BANNED Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 7,587 Likes (Received): 0	Hopefully, the new stop by NJ Transit will ease out the traffic that Meadowlands is know to get before and after games around 2015.

May 9th, 2008, 05:25 AM	#199
nyrmetros Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,233 Likes (Received): 0	2015 ehh? great.

May 9th, 2008, 07:22 AM	#200
ramvid01 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 754 Likes (Received): 0	2015? That raillink is to be up and running byt the end of this year/ very beginning of next.