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View Poll Results: What height should a MEGATALL be classifed as?
500m+ (1640ft) 198 39.52%
600m+ (1968ft) 303 60.48%
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:12 PM   #1
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New category? MEGATALL?? what height?

hi guys.
Ive been wondering lately with all these new enormous skyscrapers going up around the world and being planned they really do seem to be on another scale.
On this forum we classify "supertalls" as any building over 300m or 985ft.
I think we should have another category for skyscrapers over magic half km or 500m height.
Maybe these projects called be called Megatalls?
How can you compare a 300m skyscraper like Nina tower in HK to say Chicago Spire at 610m, twice the height and have them in same section?
Maybe some guys may think 600m or 2000ft should be megatall height?
Projects like Russia Tower and Chicago Spire and of course Burj Dubai fall into this category.
We are in a time of unprecidented skyscraper activity all over the world and we should have a section for these megatall skyscrapers because they really are in a league of there own.
I think its a bit premature to list a megatall as 1km+.
We may have Al Burj or Kuwait tower one day but lets worry about that when it happens.
lets vote on it.
also what you reckon about metric system?
it seems people have agreed 300m is better then 1000ft. there is 15ft or 5m difference.
So with megatall, 2000ft is 610m high. or should it be 600m which is 30ft lower at 1968ft.

I hope its ok to put this in this section?
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:12 PM   #2
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Maybe 500+?
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:14 PM   #3
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I think the name Hypertall would probably be better.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:18 PM   #4
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Leave Hypertall for the future.

I vote for 600, they're scarce for now, but soon they will be abundant.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:19 PM   #5
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Hypertall sounds good for 1000m+ eg-Al burj?
It will be weird if we agree on 500m , thus Taipei101 will be a Megatall and SWFC or ICC wont be?
Can someone put a list of 500m+ projects either uc and proposed?
what sort of numbers are we talking here? 10, 20 or more?

Only 500m+ projects currently underconstructon or completed are-
Burj Dubai-818m UC
Russia tower/Moscow-612m UC
Chicago Spire-610m UC
Makkah Royal Hotel/mecca-579m UC
Freedom tower/NYC-541m UC
taipei101-508m
Federation east tower/Moscow-506m UC

This Taipei101 being worlds first megatall?
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:26 PM   #6
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I have 3 suggestion


Megatall - 600m
Hypertall - 800m
Ultratall - 1000m+
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:29 PM   #7
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This is starting to sound like pokeballs.

But yeah, I don't see why a tower already constructed should be switched to another category.

Leave that to the 600m ones which are being built.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:33 PM   #8
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I would say 600m+ should be the starting point for megatall buildings, the 400-600m range confortably covers what we would consider to be supertall which is all the current completed tallest buildings in the world. The likes of Russia Tower, The Chicago Spire and Burj Dubai move skyscraper heights on in a serious way and thus I think they deserve their own category, one that supercedes the likes of Taipai 101, the Petronas Towers and IFC2. I would reserve the hyper-tall tag for buildings over 1km....the ultimate skyscraper height category.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:35 PM   #9
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gee its sounding like 600m is more popular ? i would have thought 500m?
we have only ONE skyscraper thus far completed over 500m being Taipei101. i think its good enough to be in another category?. maybe not.lol
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:35 PM   #10
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As a new category 400+ (the new supertall category i would say) would be good enough. WFC and ICC would be in that category. Al lot will fall out in that new list. As an extra you could make a 600+ category. (megatalls)
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:36 PM   #11
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I agree there should be a new category. 500m+ sounds good.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:38 PM   #12
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gee its sounding like 600m is more popular ? i would have thought 500m?
we have only ONE skyscraper thus far completed over 500m being Taipei101. i think its good enough to be in another category?. maybe not.lol
600m is more popular because its a nice number of 2000ft and even a lot of mast has been built at this height


Perhap i should change my mind

Reserve hypertall for 1km and above
Ultra-tall to be 1 mile and above haha... think sound nicer
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:38 PM   #13
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450? 500? But not 600 , definitely
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:38 PM   #14
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If we limit the Megatall forum section to 600m and above, for NOW it would cover very few projects.
Let's start with 500m.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:39 PM   #15
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gerardB-you dont think 300m is tall enough anymore to be called 'supertall"?
i tend to agree especially when i started drawing them up every month. now a 300m+ tower doesnt raise an eyelid when proposed only if its in a country like England or Australia.

BUT if we do make 600m the megatall limit, it will be a quite forum because atm there will be only 3 in it.
Burj Dubai,Russia Tower and Chicago Spire, thats why i tend to lean towards 500m.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:45 PM   #16
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I dunno, I don't think this is really necessary.
For example, you have skyscrapers that are 100m and 200m but you don't call them different just because one is twice the height, same goes for supertalls. A 600m building is still a supertall.

Once over 300m, special attention in the design process is usually given to what happens at this height, the effects, etc. This is why IMO there's a special category for buildings over 300m. I think the burj dubai is still a supertall because it still functions like a conventional supertall, it's just a very tall one.

I recon once you get over another height (maybe 1000m) you'll probably come to another jump in how the tower functions, is build, etc. Such things might include a new system in transporting people, new materials being needed, and so on.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:56 PM   #17
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I dunno, I don't think this is really necessary.
For example, you have skyscrapers that are 100m and 200m but you don't call them different just because one is twice the height, same goes for supertalls. A 600m building is still a supertall.

Once over 300m, special attention in the design process is usually given to what happens at this height, the effects, etc. This is why IMO there's a special category for buildings over 300m. I think the burj dubai is still a supertall because it still functions like a conventional supertall, it's just a very tall one.

I recon once you get over another height (maybe 1000m) you'll probably come to another jump in how the tower functions, is build, etc. Such things might include a new system in transporting people, new materials being needed, and so on.
Exactly my opinion.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:56 PM   #18
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600m for sure
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:57 PM   #19
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In my opinion, the categories should be like this.

450 m = Super
600 m = Mega
800 m = Hyper
1200 m = Ultra


OK, I did not put a second word on it because word "tall" (e.g. megatall, supertall) is only specifically talking about tall buildings. IMO, in 10 - 15 years, there might be a possibility that tall buildings will be bigger or wider. I think the best word for that is Skyscrapers(e.g MegaSkyscrapers, SuperSkyscrapers) which is a general term for buildings that are not only taller but also bigger or wider.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 04:00 PM   #20
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can i suggest 520m at the atleast height for megatall???

here is lots of buildings are almost or around 500m tall,
swfc- Shanghai
icc- HK
federation tower- Moskva

i think 520m can clearly differentiate the supertall and megatall building.

anyway, this is just my opinion.
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