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Regarding the GLASSFIELDS project...

Firstly the new renderings look much better (and are different) than the old ones... Anyway we could update the pics on the first post PJ???

Secondly anybody know what the Resi bit behind and Glassfields 2 will look like??? The pics we can see is Glassfields 1 and im sure they will develop the whole site together...

[Schmeek]

Brilliant find Red source. It would def improve the area, but I don't like the fact we still have to have adverts shoved in our faces. Obvoiusly the first thing they thought of when considering demolishing these two blots was the lack of revenue....Why can't we just have nothing there instead? Or just the arch....

Good news about the two office buildings next to the car park at cabot circus starting early next year. As I suspected, it seems they're giving the car park a chance to near completion before choking the area even more.

Here's a few comparisons I made from the webcams. The older pics are from April 15th, and the new ones yesterday.

[PJ1979]

Originally Posted by Gee31

Regarding the GLASSFIELDS project...

Firstly the new renderings look much better (and are different) than the old ones... Anyway we could update the pics on the first post PJ???

Secondly anybody know what the Resi bit behind and Glassfields 2 will look like??? The pics we can see is Glassfields 1 and im sure they will develop the whole site together...

Like JJmacJJ said I'm not sure how to get the images from the website for Glassfields or the temple gate development if anyone knows and can post them that would be great.

Gee have a look at the aerial or hybrid map of bristol on Atlashttp://atlas.freshlogicstudios.com/ I use this all the time to work out where stuff is. I believe the new road will run approximately from the royal mail depot on the A38 to one of the two roundabouts east of the M&S end of Cribbs Causeway (Highwood Road)

I particularly like the birds eye view function in the centre of bristol.

[dronkula]

Despite this delay, I think this is actually good news - the fact that the council want to hand over more land for the scheme and that they've signed this 'Planning Performance Agreement' means that both the council and the developers are pretty serious about this.

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/displ...entPK=18383590

600FT TOWER FOR ST PAUL'S HITS A DELAY

12:56 - 13 September 2007

Developers who want to build a 40-storey landmark tower in St Paul's have put off submitting a planning application until next year.PG Enterprises and Places for People teamed up to produce proposals to redevelop a five-acre site between Dove Lane and Newfoundland Way.

The scheme was due to be submitted to council planners by Christmas but will now not be handed in until 2008.

The reason for the delay is that the council has offered to hand over the Cabot Primary School site, in Halston Drive, for part of the redevelopment.

Dr Colin Bloch, from project managers RPS, said: "The Dove Lane project continues to be developed towards a full planning application, which is expected to be submitted in 2008.

"In June, the second public consultation focused on key issues and conceptual design options.

"Since then, Places for People and PG Enterprises have been approached by the city council and are considering the implications of adding the site of Cabot Primary School to the development.

"As this increases the site by nearly 25 per cent, we are taking some time to be better prepared for the next consultation stage, which is likely to be before Christmas, when we hope to offer some clear and exciting proposals."

A spokesman for the developers said he did not know how long the delay before submitting the planning application would be.

Developer PG Enterprises and property management group Places for People say the proposal, part of which includes the 600ft- high tower, Bristol's tallest building, will attract £300 million of investment to St Paul's.

The consortium wants to redevelop land close to the M32 with a mixture of 700 homes, shops and offices, together with community facilities, a hotel and open spaces.

It hopes up to 1,000 new jobs would be created.

The developers have signed a Planning Performance Agreement with Bristol City Council which is designed to smooth the planning process. It is the first of its kind in the country.

PG Enterprises' project director, Ian Walker, said: "The far-reaching significance of this regeneration project to both St Paul's and greater Bristol should not be underestimated and the agreement will go a long way towards providing a framework for our decision making."

[Schmeek]

Could be good news, but realistically I would think that more space available overall means that the same level of building space and public space can be achieved without having to build so high. Sounds like another reason for a council cop out.

The new £13.5 million community health centre for Yate is a step closer to completion.The three-storey complex is right on target for the summer 2009 opening set by health chiefs from South Gloucestershire Primary Care NHS Trust.

A detailed planning application has been submitted to South Gloucestershire Council.

The plans include a temporary home for the West Walk GP practice to accommodate the services while the new health complex is being built.

It is estimated that more than 34,000 patients living in the Yate area will no longer have to travel into Bristol or Frenchay hospitals for treatment for a range of conditions.

The centre will have a minor injury unit, outpatient consulting rooms, a GP surgery, and incorporate child clinics and physiotherapy rooms.

The children's centre will bring together child health experts, council social services staff and other child agencies to offer a much more joined up approach to child health and welfare.

The Yate health centre will be part of a network of community hospitals across South Gloucestershire, Bristol and North Somerset - a major component of the Bristol Heath Services plan.

Roger Pedley, project director for South Gloucestershire Primary Care Trust, said: "This has been a very busy month for the development of Yate services and the submission of the planning application for the new health and social care centre is a very important milestone.

"We expect the decision on the planning application towards the end of November and look forward to starting on site early in the New Year."

Demolition of the old surgery is due to get under way in January.

The trust is also spending £700,000 on expanding its team which will encourage patients to rehabilitate in their own homes, increasing the current intermediate care team of nurses, psychiatrists and support workers from 25 to 30 staff.

Amanda Cheesely, care services manager, said patients respond and benefit from the treatment and care they receive in the comfort and security of their own home.

The planning application should go before the council's planning committee next month and should receive the full support of its members.

[Schmeek]

I thought this was the BRISTOL thread?

[Red Source]

Yate comes under the Greater Bristol Development area, surely we should discuss all major plans that come within that area.

If we take out everything other than the City and County of Bristol projects then some major projects will not be highlighted under the Bristol banner. Vast parts of Bristol do not come under the old city boundaries, in fact, in the not too distant future; the urban area of Bristol will probably be twice the size of the original city boundaries.

Just off the top of my head, these projects are not technically in Bristol;

Emersons Green Science park
Cribbs Causeway (Various)
Bristol Zoo @ Hollywood Towers
Large housing developments across the northern fringe, Northfields, Harry Stoke etc
Portishead regeneration
Expansion plans of both Rolls Royce and Airbus

I see Yate as part of Urban Bristol, and I'm pretty sure the majority of people that live there are either Bristolians or see themselves very much connected to Bristol.

Originally Posted by Schmeek

I thought this was the BRISTOL thread?

Theres many areas that would be maybe not counted but for me if its got bristol in the address and also a BS (Bristol) postcode then that good enough as being part of bristol...

Other areas would include Avonmouth, Portbury, Pill, Yatton, Nailsea, Cleeve, Dundry, Kelson, Keynsham, Wraxhall, Failand, Yate, Frampton etc etc... oh BRISTOL INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT aswell... (I know alot of those areas are in north bristol and that because thats where I live and I can think of all the names off the top of my head but im sure that South, West and East bristol also have just as many areas that are included in Bristol).

These are all in a area I would call GREATER BRISTOL... its what they are calling the new bus network right? GREATER BRISTOL BUS NETWORK, well that network even includes areas I would really call BATH... Bristols growing and will keep on going...

[Schmeek]

Yes I know I was just in a state of shock! We rarely hear of anything that far afield on this thread. I grew up in Thornbury, which is similarly placed, and definately regarded myself Bristolian when I lived there. It's just that I've still got that small town mentality ingrained away at the back of my mind - Yate and Thornburyites don't get on, you see Well they didn't when I was at school anyway. Like a Manc/Scouse rivalry but on a miniature surbarban scale.........

Originally Posted by Schmeek

Yes I know I was just in a state of shock! We rarely hear of anything that far afield on this thread. I grew up in Thornbury, which is similarly placed, and definately regarded myself Bristolian when I lived there. It's just that I've still got that small town mentality ingrained away at the back of my mind - Yate and Thornburyites don't get on, you see Well they didn't when I was at school anyway. Like a Manc/Scouse rivalry but on a miniature surbarban scale.........

Please feel free to post any plans of developments that are happening in Thornbury... and as for that matter anywhere else in the GREATER BRISTOL AREA!!!

Plans to redevelop the former Royal Navy sea stores in Yate with a 250-home development could be sunk because of a shock dispute over who now owns the land.

The 12-acre site in Station Road was compulsorily purchased by the Government during World War II to build a sea stores in preparation for the D-Day landings

It was put up for sale earlier this year by the current owners, the Highways Agency, with a price tag of more than £10 million.

But the son of the original owner has stepped in and claimed he is entitled to buy back a third of the site - which already has plans for housing - because his father Hedley Newman was forced to sell it during the war.

Mr Newman was the boss of Newman Industries in the town which once employed around 3,000 people making electric motors and other equipment before the factory buildings were demolished to make way for housing in the 1970s.

Now his son Richard Newman, who has homes in Chippenham and London, has contacted the Highways Agency and said he wants to exercise his option to buy back the part of the site which belonged to his father.

Mr Newman, 57, a chartered surveyor, said: "I was first alerted to the land sale by two former employees of Newman Industries who contacted me.

"I remember father took me to the sea stores site and said one day it would come back on to the market and we should buy it back.

"There is a lot to do yet, I've got to prove my title to the land. I have two months to register my claim six weeks to agree a price and other issues.

"I have no idea yet what I want to do with the land, it is very early days yet. There are lots of permutations and I will be coming at this with a clean sheet of paper.

"Yate did a lot for my family and me and I would like to do some good for the town."

Mr Newman said he remembered working for this father at Newman Industries in the 1960s as a production engineer and was born at Poole Court which is now the town council's headquarters.

Robin Miller, spokesman for the Highways Agency, confirmed Mr Newman had put forward a claim after it placed adverts in newspapers in a bid to notify the former owners of the land that it was up for sale.

He said: "We have to notify any previous owners because they may have the right to buy back the land at the current market price.

"Someone has now come forward and that person has been put in touch with our solicitors."

The two other owners of the sea stores site was an electrical company which no longer exists and South Gloucestershire Council which has not exercised its right to buy back its part of the land.

Earlier this week, before Mr Newman's intervention, the Highways Agency had said it was in advanced negotiations with a developer who wanted to buy the entire site to build 250 homes.

That deal could fall through because of the uncertainty of what will happen if Mr Newman wins his claim of ownership.

Last year, the agency put forward a "concept statement" on how the sea stores could be redeveloped for housing and offered one acre of the site for community use as a recreation area.

Yate councillor Ian Blair said the town council had already called for a review of the land sale because it claimed not enough land was being made available for community projects.

He said: "I am very surprised the Highways Agency went this far and gained planning permission for the land before even searching for former owners of the site."

A little more info on Harry Stoke project...

http://www.greenissues.com/harrystoke/index.htm

[bristolboy]

Cabot circus has updated it's website with a whole new look!
Check it out guys.

[Schmeek]

Yeah it's not really much of an improvement is it?

[JamesWales]

Alright my fellow severnside chums?

What do you all think of cabots circus? It is undoubtedly an improvement on what was there before...that is not in doubt, but I'm interested to know whether you think that it is a big enough development, (bearing in mind that most cities are undergoing these large improvements in their city centres) what you think of the name, and what you think of the big glass roof (strange or spectacular?) I'm also interested in what you think of the long term prospects given that Cribbs aint going anywhere and is even expanding, or am I wrong in that regard?

As you may know there is a similar scheme going on in the centre of Cardiff at the mo, so I'm quite interested to know the differences between the two, the good and bad bits of each development, and which development, if any is superior.

cheers

[Red Source]

Interesting planning application received by the council.....not so much for its size but its location and what its replacing.......

http://www.ukplanning.com/ukp/doc/Dr...df&pageCount=1

Application for demolition of Bathroom centre on anchor road and development of 4-storey office block by the same developers that are involved with the College Square House and Paragon developments.

Cant see there being an issue with this considering the current building stickis out like a sore thumb from all the Harbourside activity.

[dronkula]

Originally Posted by JamesWales

Alright my fellow severnside chums?

What do you all think of cabots circus? It is undoubtedly an improvement on what was there before...that is not in doubt, but I'm interested to know whether you think that it is a big enough development, (bearing in mind that most cities are undergoing these large improvements in their city centres) what you think of the name, and what you think of the big glass roof (strange or spectacular?) I'm also interested in what you think of the long term prospects given that Cribbs aint going anywhere and is even expanding, or am I wrong in that regard?

As you may know there is a similar scheme going on in the centre of Cardiff at the mo, so I'm quite interested to know the differences between the two, the good and bad bits of each development, and which development, if any is superior.

cheers

I think Cabot Circus will stop Bristol City Centre from getting worse, however alongside all the other city centres getting redeveloped, it'll be lucky if it really will propel Bristol back into the top ten retail centres in the UK (which is something that they claim it will do).

As for the name? I, and probably everyone else in Bristol will still just call it either 'the Centre' or 'Broadmead'. At least they didn't follow Cardiff's example and just call it Broadmead 2!

With all shopping centres, they all live and die by the shops that move in. With Harvey Nicks coming to Bristol (and choosing it over Bath which, traditionally, would've been a more 'Harvey Nicks' sort of area) then I think that's a pretty good deal. We almost got Selfridges as well, but just before they signed they got bought by a canadian company who cancelled all expansion plans and decided to just concentrate on their current stores instead. Looking at the confirmed tenants already you've got shops like Zara, Bershka, Reiss coming to Bristol, and I think the South West for the first time and allegdely one of the most delux cinemas in the country with Cinema de Lux, and the centre is now 70% with still a year to go before it's finished.

The leisure stuff is just as important as well and they've spent a lot of time sorting that out as well. With a Raymond Blanc eaterie and the whole plaza around Quakers Friars I think they've got that covered as well.

As for the big glass dome, I'm pretty sure there was a law passed a few years back that made it a legal requirement that all new large developments must now have a glass dome feature - it seems that every development has them these days. Still, it keeps the rain off.

Remember that Cabot Circus is just 1 development of Broadmead - there's 2 others at the other end (St Mary le Port and Bridewell Island) that should be getting off the ground when this one finishes and will probably take us up to 2012 but when they're all done, I think Broadmead will actually be far better, and actually far bigger than Cribbs Causeway and with a bit more character and life to it.

About the Cardiff scheme, I don't really have that much of an opinion on it - I personally would've liked them to have made a feature of the numerous canals that apparently run under the centre but I've not really researched it too much. Who's moving in there and when is it opening?

[Delirium]

EDIT: Dronkulas might make alot more sense...

[JamesWales]

Cheers for the replies everyone. I think what interested me stemmed from the fact that Cabots Circus is costing 35% less than the stunningly original named 'St davids 2' scheme in Cardiff. The listed figures are £500m v £675m. Looking at the scheme particulars though, there is little differences in size although St Davids 2 is marginally bigger in most respects.

This simply led me to wonder why there was such a difference in costs (I know these figures cant be relied upon 100%) and whether Cabots was being built a bit 'on the cheap'? and what you guys thought of it.

Personally I know Bristol well, and I agree that of the two schemes this will improve Bristol more, simply because retail provision in Bristol city centre has further to climb. I am unsure of the glass roof. It may look stunning, it may not. I'll be interested to see it.. My other concern is still Cribbs causeway, and that it wont want to give up it's customers easily, and that bristol city centre is still not the easiest place to get to public transport wise. (ie, many people would not want to lug bags of shopping over to temple meads) I agree though that the overriding success of the schemes will be in it's occupant retailers. Interesting times anyway. All the best!