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[Greens81]

yeah it will be a shame to see more bland stuff going up, any new buildings there need to respect the history of the site. They need to be made to look like victorian warehouses.

Great new about the walk way along the floating harbour. It will really connect the Temple Quay2 and Temple Meads site into the centre.

[Bristol Mike]

Regarding the developments around the SS Great Britain area, sounds great but some converted warehouse would really do the trick there, even if there were some modern apartments mixed in. There are, to my knowledge, some derelict warehouses with grass and plants growing out the tops that could be polished up a bit and turned very nicely into wealthy apartments.

I certainly agree with keeping that area as a chunk of Bristol's history, hopefully any buildings they do plan to put up won't clash too much with the smaller red-orange brick apartments on the other side of the harbour.

[tpm]

Originally Posted by Bristol Mike

Regarding the developments around the SS Great Britain area, sounds great but some converted warehouse would really do the trick there, even if there were some modern apartments mixed in. There are, to my knowledge, some derelict warehouses with grass and plants growing out the tops that could be polished up a bit and turned very nicely into wealthy apartments.

I certainly agree with keeping that area as a chunk of Bristol's history, hopefully any buildings they do plan to put up won't clash too much with the smaller red-orange brick apartments on the other side of the harbour.

The planning application seems to be here, with lots of renders and drawings. Not quite sure if I like it or not. The renders look a bit weird, but they certainly seem to be trying to maintain a certain style. Well, better than run-down sheds in any case.

[Delirium]

cheers for the link i see what you mean about the look, it sort of looks like they are keeping the facade of the old buildings

[dronkula]

Originally Posted by dronkula

Hot of the presses of today's EP.

Once again the locals are upset and are worried about noise etc. with this. Surely this sort of development is for the more 'upmarket' restuarants like the Riverstation (which is just across the harbour from this site) rather than the rowdy places in the Centre/Millennium Sq?

By the way, these plans for O+M sheds on the harbour were rejected last week by the council.

[Pickle33]

Bristol Airport surpassed the 6 million ppa mark in April....its set to have another growth spurt as the Ryan Air services kick in properly. Has anyone heard if a decsion has been made by North Someset on the proposed new satellite and gate lounges application.

http://www.uk-airport-news.info/bris...ews-220408.htm

[PJ1979]

Been trying to find out about the St Mary Le Port Development over the last few weeks. Got this response.

Dear colleague

When I sent out an update to stakeholders and interested parties, last September, I explained that Deeley Freed and their project team were revising their proposals for the St Mary le Port site in response to the previous consultation and feedback. Since then the team has significantly reduced the amount of open space to be included within the proposed development and has been working up more detail about the look and character of the new buildings and spaces.

In recent months Deeley Freed has also been liaising with the City Council’s parks department which is currently working with English Heritage on a conservation management plan for Castle Park and funding for many of the projects in the plan expected to be provided through the St Mary Le Port development.

Deeley Freed had expected to be in a position to consult again with the public and stakeholders this Spring in order to share these revised proposals and again ask for comments and feedback before finalising a scheme for submission to Bristol City Council later in the year.

In the meantime, however, an application has been made to the Commons Registration Authority to grant Castle Park Town or Village Green status. The area covered by the application includes part of the St Mary le Port site. Consideration of this application by the Commons Registration Authority requires a full judicial procedure, quite separate from any planning process, and this could take several months to resolve.

If Town or Village Green status is granted for Castle Park this would jeopardise any redevelopment of the St Mary le Port site by Deeley Freed and the opportunity to remove the eyesore buildings on this site would be lost. Funding for important improvements to Castle Park set to be provided through the development would also be lost as would wider benefits such as creating a vibrant new food-centred quarter which reclaims the historic heart of Bristol; improving the connections between Broadmead, the Old City and Redcliffe and enhancing the setting for St Mary le Port Church.

Deeley Freed has submitted a formal objection to the application to grant Castle Park Town or Village Green status and now needs to await the outcome of the formal process before it can progress its plans further.

I will update you again once Deeley Freed and their team know the decision and how this affects their development proposals for St Mary le Port.


Doesn't sound too positive really!!! The whole town green thing could really kill this development. The only bit that would remain will be the Norwich Union and former Bank of England building. I didn't really like the the inital designes for the park particularly the ones that used alot of the open space, I though that the developer was really asking for trouble. Looks like they have got it, which is a shame because this could be a great development and only really requires the use of a small part of the site to create a larger independant market area.

[Big is Beautiful]

Originally Posted by PJ1979

Been trying to find out about the St Mary Le Port Development over the last few weeks. Got this response.

Dear colleague

When I sent out an update to stakeholders and interested parties, last September, I explained that Deeley Freed and their project team were revising their proposals for the St Mary le Port site in response to the previous consultation and feedback. Since then the team has significantly reduced the amount of open space to be included within the proposed development and has been working up more detail about the look and character of the new buildings and spaces.

In recent months Deeley Freed has also been liaising with the City Council’s parks department which is currently working with English Heritage on a conservation management plan for Castle Park and funding for many of the projects in the plan expected to be provided through the St Mary Le Port development.

Deeley Freed had expected to be in a position to consult again with the public and stakeholders this Spring in order to share these revised proposals and again ask for comments and feedback before finalising a scheme for submission to Bristol City Council later in the year.

In the meantime, however, an application has been made to the Commons Registration Authority to grant Castle Park Town or Village Green status. The area covered by the application includes part of the St Mary le Port site. Consideration of this application by the Commons Registration Authority requires a full judicial procedure, quite separate from any planning process, and this could take several months to resolve.

If Town or Village Green status is granted for Castle Park this would jeopardise any redevelopment of the St Mary le Port site by Deeley Freed and the opportunity to remove the eyesore buildings on this site would be lost. Funding for important improvements to Castle Park set to be provided through the development would also be lost as would wider benefits such as creating a vibrant new food-centred quarter which reclaims the historic heart of Bristol; improving the connections between Broadmead, the Old City and Redcliffe and enhancing the setting for St Mary le Port Church.

Deeley Freed has submitted a formal objection to the application to grant Castle Park Town or Village Green status and now needs to await the outcome of the formal process before it can progress its plans further.

I will update you again once Deeley Freed and their team know the decision and how this affects their development proposals for St Mary le Port.


Doesn't sound too positive really!!! The whole town green thing could really kill this development. The only bit that would remain will be the Norwich Union and former Bank of England building. I didn't really like the the inital designes for the park particularly the ones that used alot of the open space, I though that the developer was really asking for trouble. Looks like they have got it, which is a shame because this could be a great development and only really requires the use of a small part of the site to create a larger independant market area.

So does mean that we would be stuck with the Norwich Union monstrosity forever?!

In other news, people were holding a mini event outside the new Jesters building over the weekend, regarding the re-development of Stokes Croft. The gist was hands off and let the area develop organically. It seemed almost like they believed things happen by magic, rather then real money and solid ideas.

[Delirium]

why not just not knock down the norwich union building, and leave the rest of the park alone? just improving that small part would make a big deal, personally the developer sounds inconsiderate if they're planning on building on a very large portion of the park even with park town status, any sane person can see that the Mary le port area is a glaring eyesore, even the grotty parts of Broadmead are better!

[Greens81]

Why should 'granting St Mary Le Port town green status jeopordise any development' ?
What a load of ruuuuuubish.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE ....JUST KNOCK DOWN THE SHITTY NORWICH ONION BUILDINGS DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! and save the church tower in the middle. I'm pretty sure thats all that needs to happen. Thats the only redeveloping thats needs to happen, plus re doing signs and seats.
It's so obvious that these Dealing Freeds want to make as much of a commercial venture out of a prime spot as possible. Why doesnt the council just pay to demolish the shitty buildings and re-landscape the ground thats already been built on, therefore not touching any single piece of grass. The landscaped land could be resurfaced in steps so that stalls can be put on there. Food stalls would be great. I'll try to draw picture one day - i should send it to BCC and DF the dumbasses!

[PJ1979]

I agree with many of the comments on St Mary Le Port. Its frustrating because the existing buildings are awful and the area could offer so much.

I'm a little confused though, does the town green application include the buildings or not? It does seem bizare if commercial buildings can be included in a town green application but if they were then I would imagine that they would remain derelict because the owners of the property (Morley Fund Management and Strand Street Properties) have long lease on the buildings and if they cannot be redeveloped then they will simply remain derelict until the lease expires or a public body buys then out and turns the land into more park.

Deeley Freed have just been greedy and could have jeopodised what could be a smart little development. The scheme only needs to build on the derelict area, relate better to the park, create a public space around St Mary le Port tower, provide more food market space and open up some of the vaulted cellers below the Norwich Union building! If the town green application only covers the park area then they should just get on with it if they can.

This announcement just sounds like the first few steps towards re-development being cancelled like the Arena. Landowner won't sell becasue development dosen't generate enough to buy out the long lease!

[Red Source]

If this development or at least a revised version of this development does not go through then as far as I am concerned the blame will lie firmly at the door of the vocal NIMBY minority in this city...yes, Bristol Civic Society, that includes you.

Deeley Freed are a Developer, they developed plans for a derelict site in the centre of Bristol that were put to the counil for consideration. The original plans were rejected and Deeley Freed have suggested they have developed new plans that will not encroach as much onto the park. Problem now is we may never see these plans due to the town green application.

If succesful what then? st mary le port remains a derelict site for years (how long has it been already) and the council will do nothing with Castle Park as they will not have the funds to develop/improve castle green, which in my opinion is in a sorry state considering its location, history and supposed town green status. Anywhere else in the country, Castle Green would be the Jewel in the Crown

Whoever has made the application, BCC I assume, have done so to try and delay or even stop any plans of the St Mary le Port site, which is astonishing when you consider it is on the BCC key development area list

Lets see the Deeley Freed plans with a view that some of the grass area very close to the site may be lost but the vast majority kept, if acceptable then eveyone wins...the derelict site is developed and castle green gets a much needed makeover. If the plans are still not acceptable, then its all back to square one.

Blocking any development plans means everyone loses.....apart from the NIMBYS who get to keep their derelict site and a bit of unused, unkempt grass
in the corner

[Delirium]

you can sort of see why they (DF) are trying to have as much land as possible, the area of Finzels reach is just on the other side of the park, and with the new bridge there, it makes sense from a commerical and business point of view for both developers on both sides of the floating harbour, especially if they want people to go to them.

[Schmeek]

Originally Posted by Greens81

Why should 'granting St Mary Le Port town green status jeopordise any development' ?
What a load of ruuuuuubish.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE ....JUST KNOCK DOWN THE SHITTY NORWICH ONION BUILDINGS DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! and save the church tower in the middle. I'm pretty sure thats all that needs to happen. Thats the only redeveloping thats needs to happen, plus re doing signs and seats.
It's so obvious that these Dealing Freeds want to make as much of a commercial venture out of a prime spot as possible. Why doesnt the council just pay to demolish the shitty buildings and re-landscape the ground thats already been built on, therefore not touching any single piece of grass. The landscaped land could be resurfaced in steps so that stalls can be put on there. Food stalls would be great. I'll try to draw picture one day - i should send it to BCC and DF the dumbasses!

My thoughts exactly Greens. I do think this piece of land is extremely important because of the way the city is growing makes it very central. Which is why no developer or councillor will let it go, like a dog with a bone. As greens has said, the uppermost corner which at present encompasses the derelict buildings, should/could be an extension of the corn street/st Nick's market. Perhaps they could erect a simple timber based frame to provide cover when needed. The rest of the park should be cleaned up slightly and landscaped with better walkways/lighting/seating etc. And perhaps they should make an effort to retain part of the 'plans' where the new bridge meets the land and a new ferry stop. This really is all we need here. I'm in agreement with those who want to keep as much green space as possible. I think when all the developments going on around this park have been completed, it will be as popular as college green, thriving with people making use of it.


As a side note. If I was gonna have say over this, I would make a big effort to re-establish some kind of links to the Castle. It amazes me the amount of people who have no idea of what once stood here, despite the name or the pitiful remains. Once the most dominant feature of the city by a country mile, which stood for over 500 years, it is now all but forgotten.
I would like to see a life sized 'hologram' created, with lasers roughly outlining the castle walls like a ghostly apperition!! (at night obviously).

[BS1]

On a slightly lighter note, here are some interesting new panoramic shots of Cabot Circus, thanks to BBC Bristol for these...

(as they are dynamic images I can't post them directly here)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content...teps_360.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content...ftop_360.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content...ay08_360.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content...ay08_360.shtml
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/content...ay08_360.shtml


Enjoy!

[Delirium]

Originally Posted by Schmeek

As a side note. If I was gonna have say over this, I would make a big effort to re-establish some kind of links to the Castle. It amazes me the amount of people who have no idea of what once stood here, despite the name or the pitiful remains. Once the most dominant feature of the city by a country mile, which stood for over 500 years, it is now all but forgotten.
I would like to see a life sized 'hologram' created, with lasers roughly outlining the castle walls like a ghostly apperition!! (at night obviously).

forget the castle!, some people seem to be unaware that is where the original city centre used to be!

[Schmeek]

Hey don't diss the castle! It was there from (almost) the very begininng.

[PJ1979]

A few images of Castle Park Pre 1941.

Mary Le Port Street
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Peter Street. Looking Towards St Mary Le Port
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Castle Street
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Wine Street from Union Street
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Bridge Street, from the high street end
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[Bristol Mike]

They are nice photos, I love seeing old pictures of non-existent places now. Just imagine how nice it would be to walk down one of those streets now instead of driving passed that derelict building on the end of Baldwin Street!

[PJ1979]

Latest in the Post today on Cabot House

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