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Old October 16th, 2007, 03:34 PM   #161
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you summed it up really.

Bristol-run by cretins.
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Old October 16th, 2007, 05:32 PM   #162
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Interesting picures for the Victoria street site

http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/W...=&pageCount=22

http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/W...=&pageCount=22


http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/W...=&pageCount=22


but yet again, another potential site for a reasonably tall building goes begging. It is so frustrating that other than a couple of 12 storey buildings being built/planned, we are unlikely to get anything approved beyond that height.

What a complete waste of time the councils "height matters" masterplan / report was. As far as I recall the general concensus at the end was that people would like to see tall buildings i.e. 20 storeys or more in Bristol as long as they were well designed and in the right place. The council suggested that temple quay/meads, old market and broadmead/cabot circus/newfoundland road were suitable sites yet many developments are already up and running and not a sniff of a tall building (the harvey nicholls building is hardly a sky-scraper or the planned temple quay "tower")

I like the idea and setting of the proposed St Pauls Development, but come on, there is no way the council will go with the skyscraper option. From having no "skyscrapers" in Bristol to having one of the tallest outside of London? not a chance! If anything goes ahead there, it will be the lowest height option available.
Its so rubbish that we cant get tall buildings in this city!!! The council are more interested in building OUT rather than UP...

The city boundries are getting bigger Day By Day but we are not getting taller (We are becoming FAT)... There stil the Bristol Uni development which shows promise I suppose...

I think Contractors and Architects are not coming up with Taller Designs now for the city because they know it will be a waste of time and to be fair nobody wants to waste time... The council blow out everything over 10 stories... Just a bunch of OLD FARTS sat there not evolving the city... SAME OLD SAME OLD!!!

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Old October 17th, 2007, 08:32 AM   #163
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Interesting picures for the Victoria street site

http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/W...=&pageCount=22

http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/W...=&pageCount=22


http://e2edocs.bristol-city.gov.uk/W...=&pageCount=22


but yet again, another potential site for a reasonably tall building goes begging. It is so frustrating that other than a couple of 12 storey buildings being built/planned, we are unlikely to get anything approved beyond that height.

What a complete waste of time the councils "height matters" masterplan / report was. As far as I recall the general concensus at the end was that people would like to see tall buildings i.e. 20 storeys or more in Bristol as long as they were well designed and in the right place. The council suggested that temple quay/meads, old market and broadmead/cabot circus/newfoundland road were suitable sites yet many developments are already up and running and not a sniff of a tall building (the harvey nicholls building is hardly a sky-scraper or the planned temple quay "tower")

I like the idea and setting of the proposed St Pauls Development, but come on, there is no way the council will go with the skyscraper option. From having no "skyscrapers" in Bristol to having one of the tallest outside of London? not a chance! If anything goes ahead there, it will be the lowest height option available.
I can't see the Council approving these plans. The St thomas street frontage has a blank service shaft running up it and facing on to a street peppered with listed buildings. I love the Victoria street frontage and they have tried to reflect the "flat iron" building type the Council identified for this site....although its hardly difficult since the site is triangular!
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Old October 17th, 2007, 12:00 PM   #164
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Yes I know what you mean about the st. Thomas side. It could be the rear of any bland hotel or other undisinctive building. And I'm slightly disappointed with the blunted edge to the flat iron. I think to be truly distinctive or 'landmark', it should come to a perfectly sharp edge here, as in the old render posted before as many buildings have curved corners like we see in the new renders.
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Old October 17th, 2007, 05:45 PM   #165
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it looks fairly sound, but needs some fine tuning though.

as you said its the back which is the problem.

EDIT: in fact the back is downright horrible, those cheapo grey bricks (breeze/cinder blocks?) are visible! maybe some talented street artists (the other kind) will cover it up
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Old October 18th, 2007, 10:35 PM   #166
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I just thought i'd say what a massive difference was made to the Wills memorial building when they cleaned it up recently. It looks stunning - as good as new. You can see the dirty state it was in by looking at the adjoining building.
I wonder where the funding came from for this? It would be great to see the same kind of treatment applied to other historic buildings, such as the facade to Brunel's Temple Meads station(I mean the old proper station which is now the commonwealth museum). It is being choked to death by the immense traffic that passes there daily, including all the buses which stop right outside! Another building I noticed was in dire need of a wet wipe or two is the St. Mary on the quay on Colston Avenue. Oh and come to think of it, talking of St. Mary's churches, I think the Redcliffe one is starting to look a darker shade every day.


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Old October 18th, 2007, 10:44 PM   #167
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it (wills) does look very strange when compared to the rest of the building which hasn't been cleaned up (nearly black), plus you should see the back!

thats the problem with Cotswold stone, its one of the nicest and prettiest ones you'll ever get, however it stains too easily (or they show up too easily) and the carvings and mouldings wear away far too quickly compared to others being limestone and all, although it is far easier to mould and carve than others, sort of ironically.

Now im trying to imagine what it was like before! the wikipedia image isnt very clear and it was under scaffolding for so long i forgot!

Ithink the Cathedral on college green too is looking grey! and in fact what colour was St Mary Redcliffe!? they all need a good scrub like you said, i dont think our city's buildings look particularily good when they're like this to be honest...

a very nice pic Schmeek! i got to go into the Belfry and onto the roof that time, twas nice.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 09:29 AM   #168
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Saw on Pointless West last night that Bristol International have postponed their expansion plans pending further consideration of the environmental impact. They're projecting that airport will handle just under 7 million passengers next year as the new Ryan Air flights come on stream....the airport terminal is already bursting at the seams and I hate to imagine what its going to be like by the time the expansion gets under way...by that time it could be handling 8-9 million per year. If it gets any more hectic then I'll be looking for another airport to use...Brimingham or Cardiff perhaps. its just not worth fighting your way through the crowds in the departure lounge...I hated it when I last used the airport in the summer. I'm off on my hols in February and I'm staying with family and using Manchester to avoid the 3rd world experience of using Bristol International.
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Saw on Pointless West last night that Bristol International have postponed their expansion plans pending further consideration of the environmental impact. They're projecting that airport will handle just under 7 million passengers next year as the new Ryan Air flights come on stream....the airport terminal is already bursting at the seams and I hate to imagine what its going to be like by the time the expansion gets under way...by that time it could be handling 8-9 million per year. If it gets any more hectic then I'll be looking for another airport to use...Brimingham or Cardiff perhaps. its just not worth fighting your way through the crowds in the departure lounge...I hated it when I last used the airport in the summer. I'm off on my hols in February and I'm staying with family and using Manchester to avoid the 3rd world experience of using Bristol International.
Thats RIDICULOUS!!! The airport needs expanding!!! Out of all the online petitions and votes etc I have seen the expansion getting the go ahead has always come out on top!!! Why are we listening to the MINORITY (Again)???

So what exactly is the news??? Whats happening when???
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Thats RIDICULOUS!!! The airport needs expanding!!! Out of all the online petitions and votes etc I have seen the expansion getting the go ahead has always come out on top!!! Why are we listening to the MINORITY (Again)???

So what exactly is the news??? Whats happening when???
I suspect that the Airport operator has been scared off by the fact that the other regoinal airport expansion plans have all bit the dust. They are probably trying to build up a war chest of evidence to use at a public inquiry.

The other alternative is that they are running scared of the potential planning obligations that North Somerset may impose on any permission. I think they are concerned that they are going to have to pay out millions to improve roads around the Airport, and probably contribute to the Bristol Southern Bypass. They want to be sure that the expansion will generate revenues to justify the extra expense, rather than just expanding the airport and then falling victim to a change in government policy which will restrict air travel through punative taxation, resulting in no or significantly reduced gains from the expansion.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 06:29 PM   #171
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It's good to see that the harbourside is now progressing towards completion. It seems to have been sooo long since when canon's Marsh was a wasteground and it seems to have been a construction site even longer. As the covers are coming off The Crescent, I've noticed that a new building is rising quite rapidly in front of it. Not sure if it is plot 3a, or the other unnamed building on the Crest Nicholson site. And the land appears to be being readied for 1&2 college square which will front Anchor Rd.
I went down there on Sunday and it was the busiest I have seen it to date. Quite a few people were milling around or walking the waterfront, and for the first time I thought there was a sense of purpose about the place. Hopefully a sign of things to come. I might even have to eat my words at some point in the future, as the whole thing(even the colours)is starting to grow on me unexpectedly.

Full Bristol photo update will follow tomorrow...
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 08:20 PM   #172
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Whatever happened to the building they were going to put up next to the Premier Inn and Magistrates Courts???

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Old October 22nd, 2007, 08:28 PM   #173
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it was too tall
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 02:11 AM   #174
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LOL, So they not building it??? It got planning permission though...
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:48 AM   #175
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well, it looks a little large for the site its supposedly meant to be on, look on Live local (MSN maps) and have a look at the site and its really squeezed in there between the bus station and premier inn.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 01:25 PM   #176
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Concorde Closer!!! Evening Post today...

A permanent home for Bristol's preserved Concorde has moved a step closer.

Plans for a museum to house Concorde 216, the last of the supersonic airliners to fly, have at last been submitted to South Gloucestershire Council, nearly four years after it touched down at Filton for the final time.

A permanent home for the iconic jetliner would be built next to The Venue entertainment complex near The Mall at Cribbs Causeway.

The nine-acre site was left to the council by the late Jack Baylis, the multi-millionaire developer who built the out-of-town shopping centre, and his company JT Baylis has drawn up and submitted the scheme.

The Concorde Trust, representing the Bristol Aero Collection, Airbus UK, Rolls-Royce, Bristol International Airport, JT Baylis, WS Atkins, The Mall and South Gloucestershire Council, now has the task of raising the £12 million needed to build the complex.

But the Trust is hoping planners will help celebrate Concorde's fourth anniversary since she returned to her Bristol birthplace - on November 26, 2003 - by granting planning consent for the aircraft.

Oliver Dearden, for the Bristol Aero Collection which launched the bid to get Concorde 216 back to Bristol, said he was delighted the application is now in and would get the aircraft out of the elements where she is being corroded by wind and rain.

He said: "This is very exciting progress because a lot of work has gone into funding and preparing this planning application. Hopefully it is the start of a programme to get the aircraft under cover and decide how she should be displayed and presented to the public."

The Trust is hoping to attract about 90,000 visitors a year to make the project viable - not an unreasonable target when the adjoining shopping centre attracts 17 million shoppers a year.

Trust chairman Mike Littleton, from Bristol International Airport, said the submission of the planning application was good news.

He said: "We now have to raise the £12 million if we are to maintain our target to open the museum in four years.

The planning application by JT Baylis also includes a number of office buildings as part of an integrated site.

But nearby Almondsbury Parish Council said it will object to the scheme, although it is not opposed to the aviation museum, because it has traffic concerns over the number of vehicles generated by the office development.

A planning report could go before the council's planning committee in time for a decision to be made before Monday November 26.
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anyone got more info on this like a link to the planning application
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This is the planning application for the 11 Story Tower near the Marlbrough Street Bus Station just off St James Roundabout in Central Bristol...

http://e2eweb.bristol.gov.uk/PublicA...ERTY&module=P3

It says "DELAGATED DECISION" on the Status bit... Does anyone know what this means???
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Old October 26th, 2007, 10:55 AM   #180
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Has anybody else heard that UKBW on Anchor Road are moving... Well its why they have a massive sale on...

I thought recently that every building around there is being kncked down and rebuilt but this one we have heard no news on...

Well I thought I would have a look to see if its being developed and as it happns there was a planning app put forward on 6/9/07 for a 4 story office block and another app put in the same date to demolish the current building currently on the site...

The Devlopment is done by CUBEX who are also currently on site just two doors down working on COLLEGE SQUARE HOUSE...

Heres the link to the planning app:

http://e2eweb.bristol.gov.uk/PublicA...ERTY&module=P3

Heres some pictures of the proposal which is pending consideration...









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