Hillsborough Area Regional Transit (HART) - Page 3

HARTride 2012 · November 14th, 2007, 04:26 PM

Route 89 is going to be total crap now. Only one bus running the circuit every hour. Goes to show how dismal ridership is on the route. I've rode the 89 many times and most of the time, the bus was empty.

HARTride 2012 · November 16th, 2007, 04:47 PM

HART wants commuters to complete a survey regarding its BRT plan.

It is a mail-in type survey. So it can be downloaded, completed, and mailed. Faxing the survey is also allowed.

http://www.hartline.org/departments/...s/brt-2007.htm

tampasteve · November 16th, 2007, 06:39 PM

Done and done. In the mail this afternoon!

Steve

HARTride 2012 · November 16th, 2007, 08:27 PM

That's cool. I don't have enough determination to complete the survey.

My conscience tells me that busses don't matter anymore b/c I have my own vehicle now. Plus I do not travel any of the corridors that will carry the BRT routes. I only travel on Dale Mabry (south of Hillsborough) regularly to commute to school. Perhaps I will change my mind later...

HARTride 2012 · November 23rd, 2007, 09:50 PM

Revised Trolleys

Route 96 Map

Route 97 Map

smiley · November 24th, 2007, 05:23 AM

Quote:

HART wants commuters to complete a survey regarding its BRT plan.

It is a mail-in type survey. So it can be downloaded, completed, and mailed. Faxing the survey is also allowed.

http://www.hartline.org/departments/...s/brt-2007.htm

In other words, HART doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks - or they would do it online like civilized people. . . . fax it in - what a load of crap.

HARTride 2012 · November 24th, 2007, 02:32 PM

I agree, it is kind of lame that they would have a template available online, only for it to be mailed in. There are quite a few online survey/questionnaire companies that HART could have consulted to create an online survey. Oh well, I guess they did what was more economical for them.

tampasteve · November 26th, 2007, 02:51 PM

Well, we should be lucky that they can be attained so easily. Most agencies in the area only give them to you if you go to the meeting or write to them. I received one from PCPT after emailing them, then I had to print it, complete it, and either mail or scan it and email it...so I mailed it. I think it is great we have it at all, that we can participate without being there in person.

Steve

HARTride 2012 · November 27th, 2007, 01:18 AM

I still think it would have been more convenient if it was an online interface.

HARTride 2012 · December 4th, 2007, 05:13 PM

HARTline ridership continues to rise

By Times Staff Writer
Published December 4, 2007

TAMPA

High gas prices appear to be driving people to try buses. Hillsborough Area Regional Transit Authority, which oversees the county's public bus system, reported an 11 percent jump in October ridership, compared with October 2006.

Ridership reached 1.07-million trips, the highest tally on record.

"Obviously we're seeing the effects of the energy crisis," HARTline chief executive officer David Armijo told his board of directors Monday.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/12/04/Hi...rship_co.shtml

HARTride 2012 · December 5th, 2007, 04:54 PM

It is nice to see ridership continuing to rise. But they need a better system...

tampasteve · December 5th, 2007, 06:43 PM

Just think how high ridership would be if we had a decent system in place! I still say a DESPERATELY needed route is a circulator that goes up and down Dale Mabry....all day, and with stops that at LEAST have a bench, preferably a small shelter. It is sad that one of the most used roads in Tampa does not have a transit option...

Steve

HARTride 2012 · December 5th, 2007, 08:58 PM

At one time, there was even a route that went up and down MacDill Ave - Route 17. I guess low ridership killed it off though.

HARTride 2012 · December 6th, 2007, 04:24 AM

I found an old press release on HART's website listing route changes. http://www.hartline.org/departments/...10-19-2001.htm

I found it interesting because it lists some bus routes that no longer exist, perhaps due to financial problems and low ridership.

So I made this map...

Teal - Route 4 - Palma Ceia
Light Olive - Route 19 - Port Tampa
Dark Olive - Route 4/19 Overlap
Purple - Route 32 - South Tampa/Mango
Violet - Route 100X (PSTA)
Brown - Route 85 - South Tampa Connector
Red - Route 10 - Kennedy Blvd
Aqua - Route 30 - Cypress Ave
Pink - Route 17 - MacDill Ave
Sky Blue - Route 7 - West Tampa
Orange - Route 11 - Citrus Park
Light Yellow - Route 36 - Carrollwood/WestShore
Maroon - Route 44 - University/WestShore

Route 81 I guess was the "original" connector route for South Tampa, but there is no evidence of which roads it went on.

HARTride 2012 · December 6th, 2007, 08:51 PM

HART Dedicates New Transfer Center in West Tampa

Cutting the ribbon: Ricardo Roig, HART Board Chair; Commissioner Rose Ferlita, HART Board member; Shelton Quarles, TBARTA Chair; David Armijo, HART CEO; Jeanette Fenton, West Tampa CRA manager

Tampa, FL - November 27, 2007 - Next to Raymond James Stadium, on the site of the old Tampa Bay Center mall, an important link to the future of rapid transit in Tampa is about to serve its first passengers.

It is the West Tampa Transfer Center, and HART dedicated it today at 10:30 a.m.

The new transfer center is part of the revitalization of the historic West Tampa area, and will one day be a stop on the East/West route of HART's planned Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system, which will whisk passengers between Temple Terrace and the Tampa International Airport.

HART has used this facility as a transfer center since the mid-1970s, when the site housed the now-demolished Tampa Bay Center.

The West Tampa Transfer Center will serve the following six routes which carry more than 6,000 HART riders each weekday:
Route 7 – West Tampa/Citrus Park
Route 32 – Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd.
Route 36 – Dale Mabry/Himes Ave. (streetside stop on Himes)
Route 41 – Sligh Ave.
Route 44 – UATC/Habana/Westshore Plaza
Route 45 – UATC/Rome/Westshore Plaza

On hand to cut the ribbon on the WTTC were HART Board Chair Ricardo Roig, HART Board member and Hillsborough County Commissioner Rose Ferlita, Tampa Bay Area Regional Transportation Authority Chair Shelton Quarles, HART CEO David Armijo, and West Tampa Community Redevelopment Area manager for the City of Tampa Jeanette Fenton.

The facility includes a 1,100 square-foot building containing passenger and driver amenities, plus nine loading/staging bays with one bus bay on Himes Avenue. It also has three shelters with canopy system, and utilizes the building overhang as shelter for two more bus loading areas.

The mission of the Hillsborough Area Regional Transit Authority is to provide public transportation services which are safe, dependable and cost-effective, thereby enhancing the quality of life in our community.

http://www.hartline.org/departments/...e_11-27-07.htm

HARTride 2012 · December 6th, 2007, 11:01 PM

Even though I don't ride the busses anymore. This is a good day for HART and West Tampa.

Hopefully the BRT system will be good.

tampasteve · December 8th, 2007, 02:59 PM

I do not have the online copy but I read in the Tampa Bay Business Journal that HART is seeking $40million in federal money next week. The money would be used to expand local service, and expand the TECO line to whiting street (some of that money has been secured already though). Apparently part would be used for the E/W BRT route too, right now HART only has the money for the N/S BRT route....

Steve

HARTride 2012 · December 8th, 2007, 03:09 PM

Interesting...

HARTride 2012 · December 8th, 2007, 06:02 PM

Maybe after my exams have concluded on Wednesday, I will take some pics of the WTTC in operation

.

HARTride 2012 · December 10th, 2007, 11:19 PM

It seems that the center has only been dedicated and has NOT YET gone into full operation. I drove past there earlier this morning and saw that the busses are still using the old canopies. Perhaps the facility is undergoing some final touches before opening. I assume it will be open by next week though. I will update everyone on Sunday or Monday as to what the status is.

November 14th, 2007, 04:26 PM	#41
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Route 89 is going to be total crap now. Only one bus running the circuit every hour. Goes to show how dismal ridership is on the route. I've rode the 89 many times and most of the time, the bus was empty. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

November 16th, 2007, 04:47 PM	#42
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	BRT Survey HART wants commuters to complete a survey regarding its BRT plan. It is a mail-in type survey. So it can be downloaded, completed, and mailed. Faxing the survey is also allowed. http://www.hartline.org/departments/...s/brt-2007.htm __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

November 16th, 2007, 08:27 PM	#44
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	That's cool. I don't have enough determination to complete the survey. My conscience tells me that busses don't matter anymore b/c I have my own vehicle now. Plus I do not travel any of the corridors that will carry the BRT routes. I only travel on Dale Mabry (south of Hillsborough) regularly to commute to school. Perhaps I will change my mind later... __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

November 23rd, 2007, 09:50 PM	#45
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Revised Trolleys Route 96 Map Route 97 Map __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

November 24th, 2007, 02:32 PM	#47
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	I agree, it is kind of lame that they would have a template available online, only for it to be mailed in. There are quite a few online survey/questionnaire companies that HART could have consulted to create an online survey. Oh well, I guess they did what was more economical for them. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

November 16th, 2007, 06:39 PM	#43
tampasteve Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,363 Likes (Received): 2	Done and done. In the mail this afternoon! Steve

November 26th, 2007, 02:51 PM	#48
tampasteve Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,363 Likes (Received): 2	Well, we should be lucky that they can be attained so easily. Most agencies in the area only give them to you if you go to the meeting or write to them. I received one from PCPT after emailing them, then I had to print it, complete it, and either mail or scan it and email it...so I mailed it. I think it is great we have it at all, that we can participate without being there in person. Steve

November 27th, 2007, 01:18 AM	#49
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	I still think it would have been more convenient if it was an online interface. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 4th, 2007, 05:13 PM	#50
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	HARTline ridership continues to rise By Times Staff Writer Published December 4, 2007 TAMPA High gas prices appear to be driving people to try buses. Hillsborough Area Regional Transit Authority, which oversees the county's public bus system, reported an 11 percent jump in October ridership, compared with October 2006. Ridership reached 1.07-million trips, the highest tally on record. "Obviously we're seeing the effects of the energy crisis," HARTline chief executive officer David Armijo told his board of directors Monday. http://www.sptimes.com/2007/12/04/Hi...rship_co.shtml __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 5th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#51
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	It is nice to see ridership continuing to rise. But they need a better system... __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 5th, 2007, 06:43 PM	#52
tampasteve Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,363 Likes (Received): 2	Just think how high ridership would be if we had a decent system in place! I still say a DESPERATELY needed route is a circulator that goes up and down Dale Mabry....all day, and with stops that at LEAST have a bench, preferably a small shelter. It is sad that one of the most used roads in Tampa does not have a transit option... Steve __________________ Homer: Face it, Marge, Catholics rule! We got Boston, South America, the good part of Ireland, and we're makin' serious inroads in Mozambique, baby! "My badger's gonna unleash hell on your ass. Badgertastic!"

December 5th, 2007, 08:58 PM	#53
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	At one time, there was even a route that went up and down MacDill Ave - Route 17. I guess low ridership killed it off though. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 6th, 2007, 04:24 AM	#54
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	A brief look at some of HART's defunct routes I found an old press release on HART's website listing route changes. http://www.hartline.org/departments/...10-19-2001.htm I found it interesting because it lists some bus routes that no longer exist, perhaps due to financial problems and low ridership. So I made this map... Teal - Route 4 - Palma Ceia Light Olive - Route 19 - Port Tampa Dark Olive - Route 4/19 Overlap Purple - Route 32 - South Tampa/Mango Violet - Route 100X (PSTA) Brown - Route 85 - South Tampa Connector Red - Route 10 - Kennedy Blvd Aqua - Route 30 - Cypress Ave Pink - Route 17 - MacDill Ave Sky Blue - Route 7 - West Tampa Orange - Route 11 - Citrus Park Light Yellow - Route 36 - Carrollwood/WestShore Maroon - Route 44 - University/WestShore Route 81 I guess was the "original" connector route for South Tampa, but there is no evidence of which roads it went on. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 6th, 2007, 08:51 PM	#55
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	New West Tampa Transfer Center Opens! HART Dedicates New Transfer Center in West Tampa Cutting the ribbon: Ricardo Roig, HART Board Chair; Commissioner Rose Ferlita, HART Board member; Shelton Quarles, TBARTA Chair; David Armijo, HART CEO; Jeanette Fenton, West Tampa CRA manager Tampa, FL - November 27, 2007 - Next to Raymond James Stadium, on the site of the old Tampa Bay Center mall, an important link to the future of rapid transit in Tampa is about to serve its first passengers. It is the West Tampa Transfer Center, and HART dedicated it today at 10:30 a.m. The new transfer center is part of the revitalization of the historic West Tampa area, and will one day be a stop on the East/West route of HART's planned Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) system, which will whisk passengers between Temple Terrace and the Tampa International Airport. HART has used this facility as a transfer center since the mid-1970s, when the site housed the now-demolished Tampa Bay Center. The West Tampa Transfer Center will serve the following six routes which carry more than 6,000 HART riders each weekday: Route 7 – West Tampa/Citrus Park Route 32 – Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Blvd. Route 36 – Dale Mabry/Himes Ave. (streetside stop on Himes) Route 41 – Sligh Ave. Route 44 – UATC/Habana/Westshore Plaza Route 45 – UATC/Rome/Westshore Plaza On hand to cut the ribbon on the WTTC were HART Board Chair Ricardo Roig, HART Board member and Hillsborough County Commissioner Rose Ferlita, Tampa Bay Area Regional Transportation Authority Chair Shelton Quarles, HART CEO David Armijo, and West Tampa Community Redevelopment Area manager for the City of Tampa Jeanette Fenton. The facility includes a 1,100 square-foot building containing passenger and driver amenities, plus nine loading/staging bays with one bus bay on Himes Avenue. It also has three shelters with canopy system, and utilizes the building overhang as shelter for two more bus loading areas. The mission of the Hillsborough Area Regional Transit Authority is to provide public transportation services which are safe, dependable and cost-effective, thereby enhancing the quality of life in our community. http://www.hartline.org/departments/...e_11-27-07.htm __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 6th, 2007, 11:01 PM	#56
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Even though I don't ride the busses anymore. This is a good day for HART and West Tampa. Hopefully the BRT system will be good. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 8th, 2007, 02:59 PM	#57
tampasteve Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,363 Likes (Received): 2	I do not have the online copy but I read in the Tampa Bay Business Journal that HART is seeking $40million in federal money next week. The money would be used to expand local service, and expand the TECO line to whiting street (some of that money has been secured already though). Apparently part would be used for the E/W BRT route too, right now HART only has the money for the N/S BRT route.... Steve __________________ Homer: Face it, Marge, Catholics rule! We got Boston, South America, the good part of Ireland, and we're makin' serious inroads in Mozambique, baby! "My badger's gonna unleash hell on your ass. Badgertastic!"

December 8th, 2007, 03:09 PM	#58
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Interesting... __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 8th, 2007, 06:02 PM	#59
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	Maybe after my exams have concluded on Wednesday, I will take some pics of the WTTC in operation . __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

December 10th, 2007, 11:19 PM	#60
HARTride 2012 Let's go... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 10,103 Likes (Received): 24	West Tampa Transfer Center Update It seems that the center has only been dedicated and has NOT YET gone into full operation. I drove past there earlier this morning and saw that the busses are still using the old canopies. Perhaps the facility is undergoing some final touches before opening. I assume it will be open by next week though. I will update everyone on Sunday or Monday as to what the status is. __________________ Public Transit As Told By HARTride 2012 - Public Transit told from a unique perspective! - Tampa Bay, New York City, Hampton Roads, Europe \| Follow me on Twitter \| "Like" my page on Facebook

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