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Old September 14th, 2007, 06:07 PM   #61
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I agree. The design is great, but I wouldn't want them to be all alone either
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Old September 15th, 2007, 03:11 AM   #62
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Yeah the design is perfect for Miami.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 01:33 PM   #63
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maybe its me but isnt 106 floors much for a 366 m building ?

btw the design is wonderfull I hope it will get built
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Old September 15th, 2007, 05:54 PM   #64
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no, the John Hancock Center in Chicago is 344m tall with 100F or the hotel in Pyongyang with 330m and 105 floors
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Old September 15th, 2007, 07:19 PM   #65
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Did the developer settled it's problems with the FAA?
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Old September 15th, 2007, 09:24 PM   #66
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I heard they lowered the height, but not sure by how much.
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Old September 15th, 2007, 10:45 PM   #67
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Interesting! Let's hope it's aprooved!
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Old September 16th, 2007, 04:30 AM   #68
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maybe its me but isnt 106 floors much for a 366 m building ?

btw the design is wonderfull I hope it will get built
It was interesting to see EmpireWT and the proposed Bayfront Tower side by side in the SSP diagram of Miami. At 70 stories Bayfront was just about as tall as Empire World Towers.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 05:37 AM   #69
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I like the buildings, just not crazy about the location. Miami has no density. i wish they would build this where the old miami heat arena is.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:45 AM   #70
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similar to planned 101 storey units for Surfers paradise in Australia
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 08:01 AM   #71
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maybe its me but isnt 106 floors much for a 366 m building ?

btw the design is wonderfull I hope it will get built

No it isn't, at least for a condo with a flat roof...
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 01:41 PM   #72
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In which city they are building this towers?
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 05:26 PM   #73
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In which city they are building this towers?
Surfers Paradise, a town close to Brisbane in Australia.
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Old November 9th, 2007, 10:42 PM   #74
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I Like the Structure without a doubt, but i agree that it's still Short for 106 floors regardless of what any1 else has 2 say, now if this is a mixed use with half being Tall Floors not just ALL short Floors then ok im Happy. But until then over-all 7.5/10.
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Old January 19th, 2008, 06:01 AM   #75
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The FAA Strikes Again!!

The FAA Strikes Again!!

Apparently, the Building is now 1,022 feet versus the proposed 1,200 feet * 93 stories versus the proposed 106 strories.

Credit for finding the article goes to "mileageman" who was the first to post information regarding the EWT.

Plans for tallest buildings in Miami gain first endorsement
January 18, 2008 By: Paola Iuspa-Abbott
Empire World Towers
The housing market may be in crisis, but that isn’t deterring developers from seeking approval to build one of the world’s tallest skyscrapers in downtown Miami.
Miami Beach-based Maclee Developments is moving forward with plans to build twin 93-story condominium towers across from Bayside Marketplace.
On Wednesday, Maclee’s proposal won an endorsement from Miami’s Planning Advisory Board. The vote was 8-1 in favor. Miami city commissioners have yet to review plans and vote on the massive Empire World Towers, which would rise at 330 Biscayne Blvd.
Maclee is seeking a major-use special permit, required for large developments. Renowned Miami architect Kobi Karp is the brains behind the oval-shaped towers, which would cost an estimated $1 billion to build. Karp said he wanted the project to resemble a ship because the Empire buildings would be within walking distance of the Port of Miami and Biscayne Bay.
Leon Cohen, Maclee’s chief executive, unveiled the project in May 2005. But resistance from some city’s advisory boards and elected officials a year ago made him to put the plans on hold, he said. Cohen is confident sentiments over his projects have changed. Still, some Planning Advisory Board members voiced reservations before they cast their votes.
“When I first looked at it, I thought the project belonged in Dubai,” board member Ernest Martin said during the meeting and who voted for the project.
Dubai, part of the United Arab Emirates in the Middle East, has experienced a skyscraper boom in the last two decades. By 2015, Dubai is expected to have the most buildings with 100 floors or more than any other city in the world.
Initially, the Miami towers were designed to rise up 110 floors. But to comply with Federal Aviation Administration height regulations, Maclee reduced the height to 93 stories, or about 1,022 feet, said Miami attorney Lucia Dougherty, who represents Maclee.
If built, the Empire towers could be challenged by another lofty Miami project.
Developer Tibor Hollo a few months ago received city approval to build One Bayfront Plaza at 100 S. Biscayne Blvd. Hollo’s glass encased building would have nearly 2 million square feet of office space and hundreds of hotel rooms. It would rise 1,049 feet over Biscayne Boulevard.
The two Empire World Towers would have a total of 1,557 condos, 3,317 square feet of offices and 24,741 square feet of retail space. But the mix of uses could change based on market conditions over the next five years, when construction of the project could start, said Cohen, whose company manages investment groups.
Air bridges are to connect the towers, and the College/Bayside Metromover station would be incorporated into the project. For that reason, Maclee wants to build a 1,321-car parking garage, with about 236 fewer spaces than the number of proposed condos. Dougherty said the city code doesn’t require any parking space at all in downtown because the area is served by mass transit.
Despite Wednesday’s board action, there’s no guarantee Cohen will develop the project, especially since thousands of condos built and under construction in the downtown area have created a condo glut.
The Florida housing market is suffering one of the worst slumps in decades. Condo sales in the state reached 2,375 units in November, a 29 percent decline from a year earlier, according to the Florida Association of Realtors. The statewide median sales price for condos was $186,700 in November, down 9 percent from the same month in 2006. Sales and the median price of single-family homes have also seen declines.
A few months ago, Cohen began looking for buyers for the 2.66-acre site at 330 Biscayne Blvd. He bought the property in May 2005 for $31.75 million, or $270 per square foot.
LoopNet, an online listing service for commercial real estate, advertises the site, including the project’s design plans and in-process permits. Lea Cohen, sister of Leon Cohen, said the family is asking $80 million for the package.
The site, which is located south of Miami-Dade College, covers more than two-thirds of a block. It does not include the block’s northeast corner, which is occupied by a Holiday Inn. The towers would replace vacant office buildings and a parking lot.
Cohen insisted he intends to build the landmark towers and would sell only if his project isn’t permitted.
“If the market doesn’t want it, we need to have a plan B: sell the property,” he said.
Property appraiser Dave Randell, president of Miami-based Hemisphere Real Estate, said permits for future development can add value to a property, but it’s difficult to estimate their worth. The value can be influenced by such factors such as the perceived ease of obtaining city permits and what stage the permitting process of a specific project is in.
“The more steps complied in the development process, the more value it is added to the property and the project,” Randall said. “But there isn’t any particular way to measure it.”
Owners who have been awarded permits or are on the verge of obtaining one may want to recoup the cost of the permit and a share of the profit that they would have made selling out the project, Randell said.
Randall said during the residential construction boom that peaked in mid-decade, some developers obtained permits and shortly after flipped their projects for profits.
“From 2004 to 2006, people wanted to come [into this market] and offered developers crazy money for their permitted projects,” he said.
In the current housing downturn, distressed developers and investors may opt to permit their projects then sell out.
“In a normal market, it is unusual to sell a project in the middle of the development process,” Randell said.

I guess that on a positive note, the project is still alive....
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Old January 19th, 2008, 01:01 PM   #76
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not sure about those link bridges. would look awesome as twin towers.
I agree. The design is great, but I'm guessing it would be even better without the skybridges. The height is very nice, and twins look better than just one.
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Old January 19th, 2008, 02:39 PM   #77
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at least they're still over 300m tall
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Old January 20th, 2008, 12:49 AM   #78
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nice, this would ive Miami a good skyline for once.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 12:54 AM   #79
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Nice design, but I doubt this thing will be built, and if it does, below 1,000 feet.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 02:29 AM   #80
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How on earth is anyone contemplating building condos in Miami. Is this guy living in an alternate reality?
An office and hotel tower, sure, the market in that area is pretty strong. But twin 93 story condo towers in Miami?
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