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Old November 23rd, 2008, 05:13 AM   #1
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What is the city with the largest ammount of highrises?

Some people say that it is Hong Kong, other people say that it is New York, these cities have the largest ammount of skyscrapers. New York has about 60 skyscrapers with more than 650 feet, Hong Kong has about 50, Shanghai has 25, Chicago and Shenzen have 20 each.

However, for low highrise buildings nobody can beat São Paulo! It has an estimated number of rougly 30.000 buildings over 12 floors! New York, Hong kong, Shanghai each have about 4-8 thousand buildings over 12 floors, with means that São Paulo has more highrises than all these cities combined....

First posted by Farrapo in the Brasilian forum:




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(a bit off topic, but interesting) Also, São Paulo had a decent skyline by 1947! Only North American cities can say the same:







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Old November 23rd, 2008, 08:33 PM   #2
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Holy Moly what a big city!
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 09:50 PM   #3
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Sao Paolo is definitely a contender to the title, together with Seoul, Shanghai and Beijing.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 10:30 PM   #4
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Im not sure about that because its average density is lower than most of those cities listed.
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 10:52 PM   #5
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Sao Paulo's one of the ugliest skyscraper cities on the planet. It should probably take some lessons from the aesthetics of New York, Hong Kong, Chicago, Shanghai etc
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Some people say that it is Hong Kong, other people say that it is New York, these cities have the largest ammount of skyscrapers. New York has about 60 skyscrapers with more than 650 feet, Hong Kong has about 50, Shanghai has 25, Chicago and Shenzen have 20 each.

However, for low highrise buildings nobody can beat São Paulo! It has an estimated number of rougly 30.000 buildings over 12 floors! New York, Hong kong, Shanghai each have about 4-8 thousand buildings over 12 floors, with means that São Paulo has more highrises than all these cities combined....
30,000? I thought it was 40,000 a few days ago? Seems like this is a very rough number. Indeed it is very impressive. However, unfortunately whatever "sources" you have for building counts for Shanghai, Shenzhen and other Mainland China cities are incorrect (as in under counted by thousands).

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.... and the neighbour of Hong Kong.... Shenzhen....







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Old November 24th, 2008, 01:52 AM   #7
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Here is website with some highrise pictures of ny
http://www.skyscraperlife.com/skyscr...s-skyline.html


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Old November 24th, 2008, 06:06 PM   #8
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The most high rises depends on the definition of high rise. At Emporis they use 12+ floors which seems reasonable. Hong Kong, New York, and Sao Paolo have the most according to them.
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Shenzhen has a very impressive skyline, much more impressive than São Paulo's, but as a city, Shenzhen is smaller than São Paulo. It has a large number of highrises, but it certainty cannot be compared to São Paulo's estimated 30 thousand.

Note that Emporis usually counts only the buildings that its users post on the site, and cities with a large number of low quality buildings like São Paulo tend to have a large proportion of its buildings off the counter.

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Everybody knows that New York has the best skyline in the world. But it is a North American city, and North American cities tend to have a low number of hight quality skycrapers. Asian cities tend to balance between number and quality and Latin American cities (Brazil in particular) tend to have a very large number of low quality highrises.

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Old November 24th, 2008, 07:17 PM   #10
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Aerial photos of São Paulo from the Brasilian forum

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Old November 24th, 2008, 07:32 PM   #11
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Sao Paulo's one of the ugliest skyscraper cities on the planet. It should probably take some lessons from the aesthetics of New York, Hong Kong, Chicago, Shanghai etc
Shanghai is way uglier... I mean, it has some great skyscrapers, but they are in a sea of terrible buildings. São Paulo does have a certain charm in it's sea of white concrete slabs:



I don't like this modern/futuristic architecture of these asian buildings.
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Shenzhen has a very impressive skyline, much more impressive than São Paulo's, but as a city, Shenzhen is smaller than São Paulo. It has a large number of highrises, but it certainty cannot be compared to São Paulo's estimated 30 thousand.

Note that Emporis usually counts only the buildings that its users post on the site, and cities with a large number of low quality buildings like São Paulo tend to have a large proportion of its buildings off the counter.

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Everybody knows that New York has the best skyline in the world. But it is a North American city, and North American cities tend to have a low number of hight quality skycrapers. Asian cities tend to balance between number and quality and Latin American cities (Brazil in particular) tend to have a very large number of low quality highrises.
Not to start any type of argument here but i dont see any low quality skyscrapers in any of our cities.
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Old November 25th, 2008, 11:24 AM   #13
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One word: agreed.

São Paulo is the champion for density, for visual reason at least.

Laugh at me but really, I wonder how life is gonna be like in a city with such density...
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Old November 25th, 2008, 05:42 PM   #14
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Need more pics of Sao Paulo. Looks amazing
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Old November 28th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #15
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One word: agreed.

São Paulo is the champion for density, for visual reason at least.
I agree, looking at photos of the Sao Paulo skyline makes my eyes explode. That endless sea of highrises is just mind blowing.

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The most high rises depends on the definition of high rise. At Emporis they use 12+ floors which seems reasonable. Hong Kong, New York, and Sao Paolo have the most according to them.
On Emporis, Hong Kong has 7626 highrises listed, New York has 5593, then Sao Paulo has 5450. But I wouldn't be at all suprised if only a fraction of the highrises in Sao Paulo have been listed - the figure of 30,000 quoted by Guaporense could indeed be feasible?
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maybe Sao Paulo has the most highrises...but the best skyscrapercity is still NYC
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Shenzhen...It has a large number of highrises, but it certainty cannot be compared to São Paulo's estimated 30 thousand.

Note that Emporis usually counts only the buildings that its users post on the site, and cities with a large number of low quality buildings like São Paulo tend to have a large proportion of its buildings off the counter.
How do you know that Shenzhen does not compare

Much the same as São Paulo, there are no editors in China who add buildings.
Shenzhen has at least 10 million inhabitants. Probably many more since there are millions of migrant workers who enter the city.
Hong Kong is merely a small city in China, which is fortunate to have some editors.
It is already #1 on Emporis. However, Shenzhen sprawls over much more land.

Chinese cities not known for their skyscrapers also have way more than Emporis states. Tell me, when do you hear of Beijing being a skyscraper city?

This is a small portion of Beijing from more than 5 years ago (consider how long ago this is... the entire city of Shenzhen was built about 30 years ago)


The fact is that there are many unknowns... Sao Paulo is indeed very impressive, but it just may not be the the city with the most highrises.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 08:48 AM   #19
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No matter if you defend Shenzhen or Sao Paulo, but I cannot understand why feeling so much pride because of having a huge amount of the ugliest buildings made by humans: those depressing white blocks :S
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in 2005 alone Beijing had 3x the floorspace of Manhattans under construction in the run up to the Olympics. ^ That pic is now very, very changed, with much more dynamic architecture, a new central CBD and a whole lot of modern showpiece architecture like nowhere else (eg not included in that old shot the worlds largest train station, metro station, metro network, airport -that is the worlds largest building by floorspace -, the 2nd largest office building, largest stadia complex, arts centre, restoration project, and 2nd largest mall).

Also, another city, every year Shanghai constructs enough highrises for all the office space in NYC - 3000 and counting, predicted to be 4000 by 2010 of 18 storeys or over, to the point the city is sinking under the weight. Basically the city is facing a crisis if it doesn't build on this scale, trying to house near 1 million newcomers a year.

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