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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:44 PM   #3561
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This sucker's actually under construction in Madrid right now.
What, seriously?! Those elegant four skyscrapers were a really promising start for a great skyline, which will obviously get ruined big time with this ridiculous design. I feel sorry for Madrid.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:50 PM   #3562
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It's a spectacular design, but i agree it doesn't combine very well with the towers.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #3563
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It blocks the entire skyline with its fatness...
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:45 PM   #3564
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That is exactly a design for a tower which stands alone. Not close to other landmarks.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 06:01 AM   #3565
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I like it. Theres an nice and unusual co-existance between the 4 towers and the circle structure. Torre de Cristal looks a lot like 1WTC btw it is absolutely lovely though.

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Old February 13th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #3566
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Yes, indeed. I never realized that.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 11:29 PM   #3567
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I like it. Theres an nice and unusual co-existance between the 4 towers and the circle structure. Torre de Cristal looks a lot like 1WTC btw it is absolutely lovely though.
The 4 towers are a nice ensemble together.
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Old February 14th, 2013, 08:32 AM   #3568
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I like it. Theres an nice and unusual co-existance between the 4 towers and the circle structure. Torre de Cristal looks a lot like 1WTC btw it is absolutely lovely though.
Then y are u posting it here? THis thread is about UGLY skyscrapers. That one has no place here!

Next ugly girl, please!!
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Old February 14th, 2013, 10:43 AM   #3569
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Then y are u posting it here? THis thread is about UGLY skyscrapers. That one has no place here!

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It was just a minor observation, chill...


Torre verre will look atrocious if built
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Old February 14th, 2013, 11:58 AM   #3570
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It was just a minor observation, chill...


Torre verre will look atrocious if built
I think it would be a nice change to the ugly boxes that pop up all over the New York lately. I love it more than 432 Avenue for sure.

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Old February 14th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #3571
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"ugly box"


Why can't this forum move away from that dumb term? If you think boxes are ugly, then do not visit Dubai or China. You will see what ugly really means.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 05:33 PM   #3572
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Why can't this forum move away from that dumb term? If you think boxes are ugly, then do not visit Dubai or China. You will see what ugly really means.
It's not about Dubai or China at the moment. Ugly boxes are all around the world and New York is also suffering from that, as they are quick cash grabs set for being profitable as quickly as possible. Torre Verre has a vision to its design.
432 is the most generic and boring design I have ever seen. At least they could pour some cash into making renders of their multi-million tower, but at the moment it looks like something you coudl design on a lunch break. I put more effort into stuff that I am paid 40$ for.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #3573
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Without boxes the skyline would end up looking like postmodernist disneyland, like Shanghai.
I don't understand what makes them ugly? Is simplicity ugly? I went to Toronto, before I liked modernism, and looked directly up at the TD center. My opinion changed completely.

I doubt 432 Park is generic, because I don't know any building that is so thin, and looks like six floating sections.

IMO the most generic designs are the ones that aren't unique, but aren't simple either, like those green-glass condos covered in balconies.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 12:08 AM   #3574
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Boxes make a city look all business. Skylines look much better with a plateau of 500-750 foot boxes and a few shining stars like an ESB, Chrysler, 4 Times Square, or BOA Tower. Just think: How awful would it look if there were ~100 miniature ESBs and Chryslers with 3 or 4 432 Park Avenues above the skyline. Boxes give the skyline substance, power, and an incredible presence. They make street level impressions better than anything as well. Not to mention, they're geometrically perfect and reflective or black 95% of the time.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #3575
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Without boxes the skyline would end up looking like postmodernist disneyland, like Shanghai.
I don't understand what makes them ugly? Is simplicity ugly? I went to Toronto, before I liked modernism, and looked directly up at the TD center. My opinion changed completely.

I doubt 432 Park is generic, because I don't know any building that is so thin, and looks like six floating sections.

IMO the most generic designs are the ones that aren't unique, but aren't simple either, like those green-glass condos covered in balconies.
Personally, I don't really think of boxes as simplicity, because the details are all in the engineering. Still, 432 Park Avenue is ugly and out of proportion, while contrarily trying to evoke a "simple" style.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #3576
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I don't like the cladding patterns for 432 park from the renders but I will wait until it's fully built to make a final judgement. The proportions are weird but still intrieguing. At least a taller(thicker?)one will be built, adding a bit better proportions, especially to the skyline.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:10 AM   #3577
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Ugliest building in America, 100 Federal Street in Boston:



The SSP diagram shows it even better:
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Old February 20th, 2013, 01:53 AM   #3578
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I think it's kind of cute actually
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Old February 21st, 2013, 12:08 PM   #3579
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Collini-Center in Mannheim, Germany:


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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:44 PM   #3580
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Reminds me of pants hanging loose.
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