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Old April 15th, 2011, 02:02 PM   #1481
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But why did they covered it with this grey panels I think they do the same with some other Brutalist buildings in Singapore but I don't really understand why, aesthetically they look somehow cheaper than raw concrete.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #1482
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KOMTAR in Penang, Malaysia

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First think is it dosen't look that bad but the interior maintenance of KOMTAR is a different story.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #1483
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Just a normal tower. Not ugly.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 03:17 PM   #1484
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Old April 15th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #1485
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here, some ugly ones.

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Old April 15th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #1486
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The new cladding makes it looks very plastic. They should have kept it the way it was imho.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 03:45 PM   #1487
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Old April 15th, 2011, 07:20 PM   #1488
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^ If you reckon those buildings are ugly, you will find every Chinese skyline ugly
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Old April 15th, 2011, 08:05 PM   #1489
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But why did they covered it with this grey panels I think they do the same with some other Brutalist buildings in Singapore but I don't really understand why, aesthetically they look somehow cheaper than raw concrete.
There are other major 1970s towers that were reclad in metal cladding in the 1990s and 2000s. DBS Tower One, CPF Building and High Street Centre.

Oh yes:

High Street Centre, the building with the brown "hat".
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Old April 15th, 2011, 08:20 PM   #1490
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it's ugly

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Old April 15th, 2011, 10:54 PM   #1491
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There are other major 1970s towers that were reclad in metal cladding in the 1990s and 2000s. DBS Tower One, CPF Building and High Street Centre.
Why did they do that


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I do, perhaps with small exception to Hong Kong.
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I do, perhaps with small exception to Hong Kong.
So do i
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Old April 16th, 2011, 12:19 AM   #1493
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There are other major 1970s towers that were reclad in metal cladding in the 1990s and 2000s. DBS Tower One, CPF Building and High Street Centre.

Oh yes:

High Street Centre, the building with the brown "hat".

at least they were aware of its uglyness, though not sure how much better is the refurbished version
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Isn't every chinese skyline ugly then?
Same with Brazilian skylines.
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Old April 16th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #1496
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But why did they covered it with this grey panels I think they do the same with some other Brutalist buildings in Singapore but I don't really understand why, aesthetically they look somehow cheaper than raw concrete.
These towers are originally unisolated.

To properly after-isolate is relatively hard from the inside. You can islolate the panels but the floors will still connect to the outside un-isolatedly, creating a heat bridge where will very likely moisture will condense (now that all other surfaces are relatively warm this is the coldest point).

So, what they do is to simply add another layer of façade (curtain wall of isolated glass+isolation+steel panels).

Personally, I also think it makes the buildings loose all their character. But reality is probably that if they didn't the building would no longer be used.

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Old April 16th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #1497
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But Singapore have very warm climate doesn't it? I don't think they really need to isolate buildings so much just like they don't do it in former Yugoslavia, India or even UK which actually have very bad climate for this kind of architecture. I would imagine they would rather invest in AC than Thermal insulation
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Old April 16th, 2011, 04:12 PM   #1498
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Insulation is both for heat and cold. Even office buildings in the UK cool more than they use heating.

The insulation is not only for reasons of energy-loss (cooling and heating costs) but also for reasons of comfort (usability) in the zone near to the façade. Un-insulated office buildings in any location in the world are sub-standard.

But I can only be sure about the European brutalist examples where the new façades are (apart for reasons of fashion) simply to get the building's technical quality to up to date standards. Single glazed, uninsulated office buildings are out-dated and are (slowly) either upgraded or demolished to remain rentable.

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Old April 16th, 2011, 09:14 PM   #1499
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^ If you reckon those buildings are ugly, you will find every Chinese skyline ugly
You can have a great Skyline with a mix of some great buildings and mostly ugly/boring buildings like chicago.
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Guy's Hospital (right) in London is the tallest hospital building in the world. And i personally think it is also the ugliest building on the planet
It's not ugly at all.
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