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Old October 8th, 2008, 04:19 AM   #181
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^Thats a fantastic design, I love it! Nothing else could compare!
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Townsville is unlike any other city in Australia. No city of comparable size has quite the connection into the future prosperity of the Australian nation as does Townsville.
Townsville's next phase of growth is likely to accrue the critical mass in population to transform from regional centre to a metropolitan centre.
'Bernard Salt' Australia's leading demographer

Townsville is a picture of exactly the kind of diverse, dynamic regional economy that will power Australia's passage through the years ahead.
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Old October 8th, 2008, 09:27 AM   #182
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They should put a ferris wheel in the circle in Anara
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Old October 9th, 2008, 06:37 AM   #183
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They should make it a wind turbine for power.
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Old October 10th, 2008, 07:40 AM   #184
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Old October 10th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #185
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They should make it a wind turbine for power.
Bit dangerous that high up
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Old October 10th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #186
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Just a note: That map is not an official product by Nakheel (the developer). It is from a third party that probably made it to be funny.
Okay, didnt see any logo.. but thanks!
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Old October 10th, 2008, 11:57 AM   #187
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Old October 12th, 2008, 02:58 PM   #188
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Amazing how PNG is in tassies spot, UAE needs a better geography system for their schools!
i know! but can we have smaller resolution images please? they are stupidly massive... just link them please :P


these towers are just plain old insane... like the capital of star wars universe in the prequels
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Old October 12th, 2008, 04:45 PM   #189
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An interesting article in todays Age regarding Dubai. It's about time Dubai got a reputation to match it's appalling disrespect of human rights.


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Behind the opulence and dizzying skyscrapers of Dubai, is an exploited army of migrant workers living in squalor. Ghaith Abdul-Ahad reports.

THE sun is setting and its dying rays cast triangles of light on to the bodies of the Indian workers. Two are washing themselves, scooping water from tubs in a small yard next to the labour camp's toilets. Others queue for their turn.

One man stands, stamping his feet in a bucket, turned into a human washing machine. The heat is suffocating and the sandy wind whips our faces.

All around, a city of labour camps stretches out in the middle of the Arabian desert, a jumble of low, concrete barracks, corrugated iron, chicken-mesh walls, barbed wire, scrap metal, empty paint cans, rusted machinery and thousands of men with tired and gloomy faces.

I have left Dubai's spiralling towers, man-made islands and mega-malls behind and driven through the desert to the outskirts of the neighbouring city of Abu Dhabi and into the heart of Mousafah, a ghetto-like neighbourhood of camps hidden away from the eyes of tourists. It is just one of many areas around the Gulf set aside for an army of labourers building the icons of architecture that are mushrooming all over the region.

Behind the showers, in a yard paved with metal sheets, a line of men stands silently in front of blackened pans, preparing their dinner. Sweat rolls down their heads and necks, their soaked shirts stuck to their backs. A heavy smell of spices and body odour fills the air.

Next to a heap of rubbish, a man holds a plate containing his meal: a few chillies, an onion and three tomatoes, to be fried with spices and eaten with a piece of bread.

In a neighbouring camp, a group of Pakistani workers from north and south Waziristan sit exhaustedly sipping tea while one of them cooks outside. In the middle of the cramped room in which 10 men sleep, one worker in a filthy robe sits on the floor grinding garlic and onions with a mortar and pestle while staring into the void. Continued...
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Old October 12th, 2008, 09:15 PM   #190
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mate its not just Dubai, its the whole middle east, Qatar, Kuwait the UAE.

the economies are based on immigrant pakistani workers, from airport baggage handlers to taxi drivers, starbucks employee's and construction workers. Its being going on for decades and the Western World has ignored it this long and will be for a long time to come.

Anyone who has being to the wealthy middle eastern countries will be able tell you that the pakistanis rights are abused. At Kuwait airport they have dozens of pakistani men standing around in bright blue and orange jump suits with little ice cream hats, and they will snatch your bag from your hand to carry it for you, then beg for a tip.

The whole region is pathetic!
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Old October 12th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #191
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r u repeating what u've just read in the newspaper?
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Old October 13th, 2008, 02:01 AM   #192
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All of the Emirates etc exist on Sub-Continent labour - but its no different a function than Philipino maids in Hong Kong or Bangladeshi/Indian "students" coming to Australia to gain residency via a cooking diploma or dodgy accoutancy degree etc.

These workers are going to work on Emirati building sites 'cos they're earning far more than they could at "home".
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Old October 13th, 2008, 08:55 AM   #193
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r u repeating what u've just read in the newspaper?
no, it was from what i witnessd whilst working in the middle east the past 7months.
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Old October 13th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #194
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I dont have a problem with it, they are going willingly and the money they are making they are sending home improving the living standard there.
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Old October 13th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #195
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so in a country of billionaires, you dont see a problem with paying immigrant workers a incredibly small wage, with little training, next to no safety measures and giving them no workers rights whatsoever or no medical coverage.

hmm, i guess we have different opinions on human rights
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Old October 13th, 2008, 09:48 AM   #196
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Supply and Demand?
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Old October 14th, 2008, 08:27 AM   #197
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Townsville is unlike any other city in Australia. No city of comparable size has quite the connection into the future prosperity of the Australian nation as does Townsville.
Townsville's next phase of growth is likely to accrue the critical mass in population to transform from regional centre to a metropolitan centre.
'Bernard Salt' Australia's leading demographer

Townsville is a picture of exactly the kind of diverse, dynamic regional economy that will power Australia's passage through the years ahead.
Treasurer Wayne Swan
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Old October 14th, 2008, 08:42 AM   #198
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I dont have a problem with it, they are going willingly and the money they are making they are sending home improving the living standard there.
They are barely making much more than they would back home. I spoke to some labourers and their managers in Dubai last year, and many of them hate the UAE nationals because of the way they are treated. Its almost like the whole caste system back in India.
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Old October 14th, 2008, 08:47 AM   #199
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Old October 14th, 2008, 10:09 AM   #200
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I stopped into Sri Lanka on my way to Dubai and met up with a couple of locals who had previously worked in Dubai. They didn't deny it was hard work and long hours etc. but they also came home and were able to purchase a house outright!

"so in a country of billionaires, you dont see a problem with paying immigrant workers a incredibly small wage, with little training, next to no safety measures and giving them no workers rights whatsoever or no medical coverage. hmm, i guess we have different opinions on human rights"
TOCC, is this Dubai or the United States you are talking about here? The similarities when you put it that way are scary....!

They system is definitely based on migrant workers, at all levels right up to the CEO of major banks.
I don't agree with many things I am seeing here, and my number one issue over here is the fact that it is illegal to form trade unions. Free association should be the first Human Right granted by Sheik Mohammed. I think I may draft a personal letter as long as it doesn't get me deported...

BTW, that Nakheel tower looks like an giant ego of a p*nis in the sky! Compared to the beauty of Meeras' "One Dubai" in Jumeirah Gardens
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