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Old January 26th, 2008, 04:33 AM   #261
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A building this tall is technically feasable as of now. Not to mention the price tag or the time it would take to complete. It seems to me Arabs are inspiring visionaries as well as very serious builders. It just might happen.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 02:33 PM   #262
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ESB was made of steel, Burj is a near solid concrete mass. You cant compare the two.
? ? This is partly what I said, we've changed technology and gone backwards. Yes, ESB is made of steel and blocks of stone (are any of the new buildings even considering stone? NO). All over changes and techniques and we've gone backwards as far as build time goes, so what did we gain by changing technology?

Also in general it seems like overseas buildings (especially in Dubai, etc.) go up much faster than buildings in the United States. I'm sure OSHA, unions, politicians, etc. are major factors in the time it takes to construct a building in the United States.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 04:28 PM   #263
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Actually the reason large scale construction projects take so long to get started in the States. Is because there is always so much opposition from people living in the area.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 10:13 AM   #264
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Buildings dont go up as fast in America because City Councils decide wether a sky scrapper is going to be an eye sore or not on the cites sky line, which is why you would never see crap like this of that sore erection in Dubai be built in the states. Also most of Americas Major cities have to deal with FAA Regulations on how high towers can be built. American Cities care about need and looks not records. Right now it looks like America doesn't need a crap shoot like this.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 12:15 PM   #265
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So you are saying that the vanilla boxes in US city skylines are the definition of taste and good look?

And who with a sane mind will think that only USA has height restrictions or regulations and in other cities/countries supertalls just pop-up randomly without any studies done.

Speaking of Dubai: Airport restrictions have shifted the location of the next World tallest, has cancelled a 600 - 700 meters planned tower, and have reduced the height by more then one third to at least 2 already announced architectural masterpieces.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 02:46 PM   #266
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Thing is, the US would probably stop a project like burj dubai going through, but a project like "the universe" would also be stopped.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 02:48 PM   #267
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Buildings dont go up as fast in America because City Councils decide wether a sky scrapper is going to be an eye sore or not on the cites sky line, which is why you would never see crap like this of that sore erection in Dubai be built in the states.
? ? Actually the general opinion is that many of the building in Dubai are cutting edge architecture, not eyesores. They also do a lot more cutting edge construction technology than we do. We don't build islands to put buildings on, nor do we consistently break records for concrete pumping etc. All we do it sticks spires on top of buildings to make everyone think they're tall (freedom tower for example which is almost 1/3 spire). About the only cutting edge building being built in the United States right now is the Chicago Spire which will set records for concrete pumping and for elevator length!
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Old January 27th, 2008, 03:04 PM   #268
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That's the thing. Dubai gets some cutting edge stuff but also the opposite end of things like the big ben replica, "the universe" and so on.
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Old January 27th, 2008, 11:57 PM   #269
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We don't build islands to put buildings on, nor do we consistently break records for concrete pumping etc.
would you want the us to be recognised for pumping the mot concrete? the us is already known as one of the biggest polluters so im not sure mass concrete pumping will look very good
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Old February 14th, 2008, 03:16 AM   #270
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But with a city like Dubai, having hundreds, even thousands of PRO-PREP-U/C-T/O towers on its schedule it would be impossible NOT to have some crap there in between....just look at other cities, who have maybe 10 x 250m+ buildings (and they are few), are you telling me that all of them are masterpieces?? no! and if only one one of them is a complete crap that would translate into maybe 100 towers in dubai being shitty. Dubai is simply building every aspect of our architectural modern day culture times 10, so we should, as scraper fans, be very thankful for witnessing such a construction mania, at such a pace, in such a condensed aeria.

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Old February 14th, 2008, 03:23 AM   #271
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About the only cutting edge building being built in the United States right now is the Chicago Spire which will set records for concrete pumping and for elevator length!

Agree with this... CS is the only way that show that American didnt play cheat... Although its not the world tallest building, but at least we are impressed by the full structural height and not spire height u see...
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Old February 14th, 2008, 05:48 AM   #272
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it comes to a point where so many beautiful towers saturate the market, and its like being in a room filled with super models. It gets old and boring rather quickly. I love the designs in Dubai, I just feel that they are reacting to quickly to a population boom that may or may not be coming.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 01:32 PM   #273
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? ? This is partly what I said, we've changed technology and gone backwards. Yes, ESB is made of steel and blocks of stone (are any of the new buildings even considering stone? NO). All over changes and techniques and we've gone backwards as far as build time goes, so what did we gain by changing technology?

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Yes stone is the way of the future, the egyptions had the right idea with that, we're all so naive using this ridiculous substance concrete, i mean ok it's considerably stronger in compression than stone, considerably easier to build with, easy to reinforce with steel, cheap, massively available, new mixes and materials make it even stronger, why would we use such a useless material???
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Yes stone is the way of the future, the egyptions had the right idea with that, we're all so naive using this ridiculous substance concrete, i mean ok it's considerably stronger in compression than stone, considerably easier to build with, easy to reinforce with concrete, cheap, massively available, new mixes and materials make it even stronger, why would we use such a useless material???
Concrete stronger than stone in compression? Okay maybe true for sandstone, shale etc. but not true for granite. Besides if you read my post you'll see that I was just stating that with all our new technology build times have gone backwards. I wasn't making a statement on economics etc.
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Old February 14th, 2008, 03:08 PM   #275
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^yeah and a computer takes longer to build than an abacus, doesnt make it in any way inferior at all.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 07:00 PM   #276
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Thread reopened since there is an article. I thought this was dead because of the airport
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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:21 PM   #277
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Saudi plans tallest tower

DUBAI: Kingdom Holding Company, controlled by Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, plans to invite bids before July for contracts to build the world's tallest tower in Saudi Arabia.

The Mile High tower, which could reach 1,600m in height, is to be built in Jeddah and may cost up to $10 billion (BD3.78bn), London-based Middle East Economic Digest said in its latest issue, citing a source close to the project.

Dubai's Emaar Properties is currently building the Burj Dubai, which it says will be the world's tallest building.

The Mile High tower could be twice as tall as the Burj Dubai, the report said.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story...&IssueID=30341
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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #278
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i really dont think they will build this tower, its a bit ahead of its time
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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:39 PM   #279
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yes, maybe it seems to be a bit too early to build 1600m tall but since it is possible to build...why not
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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:49 PM   #280
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they can build it but the time is unknown...
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