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Old December 3rd, 2011, 01:33 AM   #2801
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Do you think one would be able to see the Mecca Abraj Al Bait clocktower from the top of this one? :P
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 05:00 AM   #2802
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Do you think one would be able to see the Mecca Abraj Al Bait clocktower from the top of this one? :P
very good information , the distance between them is just 52 miles , so anyone will be able to see it ..
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 10:24 PM   #2803
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With the height of the Ground in Mecca being 330m over the sea level on the site of Abraj Al Bait. And at the top of the spire the height is 601m this makes for a total height of 931m so you should see it very well.

And the view will be very interesting and probably spectacular. and the area in between slopes neatly up towards the Abraj Al Bait so it wont be obscured by hilltops in between at all nearly. So all u need is very clear, and non hazy weather.

But the height of the observation deck and the total height of The Kingdom tower aint concrete yet. Would be very cool if Kingdom Tower get an observation floor where u actually look slightly down on the spire of the Abraj Al Bait tower.

And if they stick to the numbers that are rumored now the top of the Kingdom Tower will be 76m taller than the top of the Abraj Al Bait tower

This got a little complicated i guess. so i made a sketch of it



Both of the great drawings and scale lines are from Skyscraperpage.com
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Drawing of Kingdom Tower by S-T-R

Drawing of Makkah Royal Clock Tower Hotel by Ka777

can be viewed in larger scale here http://imageshack.us/f/841/kingdomtowerandmeccaroy.png/
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Old December 4th, 2011, 06:01 PM   #2804
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There are actually mountains in the way, but those two monstrosities are so tall you might actually see one from the top of the other:

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Old December 4th, 2011, 06:15 PM   #2805
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Wow, awesome posts by Infernal Elf and HiJazzey, thanks! I would imagine it would be quite wicked to see the Kingdom Tower rise from the upper windows of Abraj Al Bait.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 07:12 PM   #2806
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i dont think its possible to see that far even on a clear day. also the world is round so the horizon is a bit different and the mountains act like they are taller.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 08:15 PM   #2807
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Thanks for providing even more data and very detailed info on the heights in the terrain HiJazzey.

you got good point there Killer Zavatar, but i still think it might still be possible.

according to this article http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/ba...s-the-horizon/

U can see 112.8 kilometers over flat terrain from a height of 1000 meters. And if we apply all the formulas in that article, i think we can calculate this pretty good with all the hills taken in account. If someone feels up to the task.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 08:21 PM   #2808
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but that area is pretty dry and sandy, i think over the distance it will all blur out.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 08:41 PM   #2809
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will be great to see 2 skyscrapers on such distance, unfortunately one of the is the mecca tower which is very ugly.

Jeddah tower is very beautiful! but I can't see the point of this skyscraper in jeddah
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Old December 4th, 2011, 09:31 PM   #2810
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i can imagine seeing both buildings from the mountain in the middle on a very clear day, but seeing one building from the other one may be hard
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Old December 5th, 2011, 12:35 AM   #2811
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i can imagine seeing both buildings from the mountain in the middle on a very clear day, but seeing one building from the other one may be hard
I saw an imagine of a clear day when you can see Brescia from the other side of the Padan Plain(from a mountain) it's more than 80 km
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Old December 5th, 2011, 03:01 PM   #2812
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The air over there is very dry and while sand storms are common in a desert I kinda doubt they will reach a sufficient height to obscure the vision between Kingdom Tower and Abby. I'm optimistic and I think those two giants will be able to see each other
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Old December 5th, 2011, 06:28 PM   #2813
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with a telescope ,of course
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Old December 5th, 2011, 08:58 PM   #2814
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with a telescope ,of course
yeah thats a different thing, how small would it be over the distance? but damn if they really can see each other that would be legen...



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Old December 5th, 2011, 10:14 PM   #2815
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Damn, will you be able to see the pyramids in Giza? That would be disastrous for our tourism industry
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Old December 5th, 2011, 10:20 PM   #2816
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Who cares if we can or not can see the tower. It`s difficult as in NK to get a visa for a western non muslim tourist.

I would really like to come and visit the tower when completed.
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Old December 5th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #2817
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So, the final height is 1007m, right? I thought it would be around 1500/1600m, I'm a bit disappointed...lol I'm kidding, 1007m is truly amazing & I just can't wait to see it rising, it's going be a very long construction phase but very fascinating as well. I'm curious to see its foundations, likely to be gigantic .
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Old December 5th, 2011, 11:16 PM   #2818
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Who cares if we can or not can see the tower. It`s difficult as in NK to get a visa for a western non muslim tourist.

I would really like to come and visit the tower when completed.
You mean to get visa to visit the country or to get visa to visit Mecca? I know they don't want non-muslims in Mecca but iirc the rest of the country isn't restricted in such a way. Though I dunno so correct me if I'm wrong
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:12 AM   #2819
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Entering Mecca is restricted for non-muslims, which means you may be citizen of saudi arabia and still won't be allowed to the city unless you are muslim.

Other thing is that Saudi Arabia as a country actually doesn't give tourist visas for foreigners. Only exception is visas for muslim pilgrims. So another words: if you are muslim you can visit country and Mecca if you're not you can't actually visit Saudi Arabia at all.

There are other types of visas for non-muslims, like business visas which you can only get if some Saudi company will invite you for any occasion. Or transit visa if you work in transit.

Tom Green is wrong because it is actually easier to visit North Korea since there are regular trips organized for non-US tourists. So I for example would have no problem going for a trip to nk but I will never be allowed to visit sa. Not a very welcoming country one may think.
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Old December 6th, 2011, 12:39 AM   #2820
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That's rather discriminating. It's sad that the new world's tallest building will be in such a country
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