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Msradell · January 28th, 2012, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by trimetileno

It is a masterpiece of ENGINEERING, not architecture. There are no arquitects calculating the structure.

+1 ! If it wasn't for Engineers nothing that architects designed would stand up.

kamranyeezy · January 28th, 2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerZavatar

But only future can tell

of course

castletower · January 28th, 2012, 01:03 PM

Truth is, I can't see a competition either between the two. But we shall see. While I give a 90% chance for the Kingdom Tower to be finalized, right now I give only 10% chance to the Azerbaijan Tower to be finalized at the proposed height of 1,050 meters.

But we need to give it some time and see.

Rody69 · January 28th, 2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonievanVliet

Dear Rody, thanks for adding the info! As I look at your image it comes to my mind this drawing might be the part of the tower that's concrete and the part that's steel. Constructing this high makes the use of steel on the top needed. Burj Khalifa comprises of ± 600m concrete, and the remaining part 218 meter of steel. Steel is lighter, stiffer than concrete, and resists bending stresses, so it makes sense the top of Jeddah Kingdom Tower is constructed in a similar way. I agree the highest floors are maybe between 750 and 850 meters. The Tower is a stunning masterpiece of architecture!

that's possible, hence this's the elevators system diagram..
on the other hand, I agree with you on the rest

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Originally Posted by Ajaypp

Good one, Rody. The KT uses the 'sky lobby' concept that is the most efficient for supertalls. It also allows for the vertical zoning of tall buildings allowing vertically stacked mixed use. Do we have a use mix diagram for the KT?

I hope I would be able to provide the forum with that before one of the "Chicagoans"

reecebowker · January 29th, 2012, 09:56 PM

we need some photos :/

Lion007 · January 30th, 2012, 02:31 PM

I read in newspaper, as they started to build it. Is this true?

Arch · January 30th, 2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Msradell

+1 ! If it wasn't for Engineers nothing that architects designed would stand up.

If it wasn't for the Architect's vision, Engineers would have nothing to do! I'd rather be an Architect dreaming up fantastic buildings, than an Engineer crunching boring numbers.

Kanto · January 30th, 2012, 02:57 PM

Not really. An engineer with his/her knowledge of physics could design a building however an architect couldn't build a building without an engineer so I think engineers are more important than architects

Spider-Man22 · February 1st, 2012, 06:37 PM

when will update?

KillerZavatar · February 1st, 2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Man22

when will update?

i think the tower site has preparation going on so its updating all the time, but we will not see what was done until we see photos of users.

Arch · February 3rd, 2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kanto

Not really. An engineer with his/her knowledge of physics could design a building however an architect couldn't build a building without an engineer so I think engineers are more important than architects

Its not just about the knowledge to build it. You need the creativity and vision but more importantly the procurement and design responsibility lies in the hands of the architect. They are the ones that negotiate the contracts and prepare all the necessary documents for the project. Its the architect that runs the show, not the engineer. The engineer calculates all the necessary structural elements and may suggest reasons why a design would need to be altered and so on.
S4 is a load of crap like bob lazar and the rest of you ufo huggers, just because you want to believe it doesn't make it true!

Kanto · February 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM

LOL, I'm not a Bob Lazar supporter, in fact I think Bob Lazar is nothing more than a hoaxer who is telling a facinating sci-fi story. The S-4, Papoose lake location I have in my profile is just a joke

trimetileno · February 4th, 2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Arch

Its not just about the knowledge to build it. You need the creativity and vision but more importantly the procurement and design responsibility lies in the hands of the architect. They are the ones that negotiate the contracts and prepare all the necessary documents for the project. Its the architect that runs the show, not the engineer. The engineer calculates all the necessary structural elements and may suggest reasons why a design would need to be altered and so on.
S4 is a load of crap like bob lazar and the rest of you ufo huggers, just because you want to believe it doesn't make it true!

Architects only make drawings of the tower. Enginners builds the tower.

Spider-Man22 · February 4th, 2012, 11:32 AM

Construction started Unknown (scheduled)
Estimated completion Unknown

Lion007 · February 4th, 2012, 01:26 PM

Kingdom Tower got a concurence. Which tower will be build before?

Eastern37 · February 4th, 2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by trimetileno

Architects only make drawings of the tower. Enginners builds the tower.

Architects: Come up with the design, make the design functional, make the project happen...

Engineers: Work with the architect to make the sure the building will be strong and how it will be built.....

Builders: Build it....

fayzoon · February 4th, 2012, 03:19 PM

Adrian smith said : it WILL start in Jan. and now we are in Feb. So, it must be U/C by now ,isn't it ?

KillerZavatar · February 4th, 2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fayzoon

Adrian smith said : it WILL start in Jan. and now we are in Feb. So, it must be U/C by now ,isn't it ?

well preparation started in january. so well it started in january and he wasnt wrong.

Jay · February 4th, 2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fayzoon

Adrian smith said : it WILL start in Jan. and now we are in Feb. So, it must be U/C by now ,isn't it ?

wouldn't there be news of it though? unless i missed something..

t3x · February 4th, 2012, 11:29 PM

If preparations have started, shouldn't this be in the Under Construction Thread?

January 30th, 2012, 02:57 PM	#3268
Kanto Roof height crusader Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: S-4, Papoose Lake Posts: 4,523 Likes (Received): 255	Not really. An engineer with his/her knowledge of physics could design a building however an architect couldn't build a building without an engineer so I think engineers are more important than architects __________________ The Outbreak New Browser Online Stretegy Game beta round has started http://www.the-outbreak.com/ Be a mayor of a town in difficult times of an unknown virus pandemic killing millions of people across the United States Build your town, expand it, trade, negotiate and wage war in a unique and original online real time strategy game If you're interested in this game, PM me and I will guide you through your first moves of building a town

February 3rd, 2012, 08:28 PM	#3272
Kanto Roof height crusader Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: S-4, Papoose Lake Posts: 4,523 Likes (Received): 255	LOL, I'm not a Bob Lazar supporter, in fact I think Bob Lazar is nothing more than a hoaxer who is telling a facinating sci-fi story. The S-4, Papoose lake location I have in my profile is just a joke __________________ The Outbreak New Browser Online Stretegy Game beta round has started http://www.the-outbreak.com/ Be a mayor of a town in difficult times of an unknown virus pandemic killing millions of people across the United States Build your town, expand it, trade, negotiate and wage war in a unique and original online real time strategy game If you're interested in this game, PM me and I will guide you through your first moves of building a town

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fayzoon fayzooon Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dhahran - Saudi Arabia Posts: 415 Likes (Received): 4	Adrian smith said : it WILL start in Jan. and now we are in Feb. So, it must be U/C by now ,isn't it ? __________________ KFUPM

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January 28th, 2012, 01:03 PM	#3263
castletower Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 22 Likes (Received): 0	Truth is, I can't see a competition either between the two. But we shall see. While I give a 90% chance for the Kingdom Tower to be finalized, right now I give only 10% chance to the Azerbaijan Tower to be finalized at the proposed height of 1,050 meters. But we need to give it some time and see.

January 29th, 2012, 09:56 PM	#3265
reecebowker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 251 Likes (Received): 0	we need some photos :/

January 30th, 2012, 02:31 PM	#3266
Lion007 Lion007 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 5,120 Likes (Received): 573	I read in newspaper, as they started to build it. Is this true?

February 1st, 2012, 06:37 PM	#3269
Spider-Man22 x-seed 4000 Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 740 Likes (Received): 4	when will update?

February 4th, 2012, 11:32 AM	#3274
Spider-Man22 x-seed 4000 Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 740 Likes (Received): 4	Construction started Unknown (scheduled) Estimated completion Unknown

February 4th, 2012, 01:26 PM	#3275
Lion007 Lion007 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ljubljana Posts: 5,120 Likes (Received): 573	Kingdom Tower got a concurence. Which tower will be build before?

February 4th, 2012, 11:29 PM	#3280
t3x Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 50 Likes (Received): 1	If preparations have started, shouldn't this be in the Under Construction Thread?