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Old May 24th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #5401
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I really dont see the point as no tourists are allowed in Saudi Arabia, someone from inside the country has to invite you. And women forget about visiting, you can't go by yourself without your husband or a close relative. And yes you have to cover yourself completely. So basically this thing will be just for men.

PS: Oh yeah, you can't drink too, alcohol is prohibited in Saudi Arabia...
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Old May 24th, 2013, 08:41 PM   #5402
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I really dont see the point as no tourists are allowed in Saudi Arabia, someone from inside the country has to invite you. And women forget about visiting, you can't go by yourself without your husband or a close relative. And yes you have to cover yourself completely. So basically this thing will be just for men.

PS: Oh yeah, you can't drink too, alcohol is prohibited in Saudi Arabia...
up to 2 million people come to SA for Hajj pilgrimage in Hajj month and millions more for Umrah pilgrimage in other month all year long is a lot of tourist.

most of them come via port and airport in Jeddah.

the Saudis have different concept of tourism, but they still tourists.
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Old May 24th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #5403
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I really dont see the point as no tourists are allowed in Saudi Arabia, someone from inside the country has to invite you. And women forget about visiting, you can't go by yourself without your husband or a close relative. And yes you have to cover yourself completely. So basically this thing will be just for men.

PS: Oh yeah, you can't drink too, alcohol is prohibited in Saudi Arabia...
Exactly another reason not to build this tower there! Unless they changed the rules to fit tourism. anyways this is my opinion and I am not trying to offend anyone.

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Old May 24th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #5404
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but all I see discussions and comments about the truth of it being U/C
Yes, because of people like you

And don't worry, there will be enough pics in the future. When burj kalifa started construction there were almost no pics too.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #5405
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the Saudis have different concept of tourism, but they still tourists.
Pilgrims are pilgrims, and tourists are tourists. I wouldn't confuse these terms. But I agree kingdom tower can probably pay for itself just from millions of pilgrims visiting it annually.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #5406
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Pilgrims are pilgrims, and tourists are tourists. I wouldn't confuse these terms. But I agree kingdom tower can probably pay for itself just from millions of pilgrims visiting it annually.
People traveling for pilgrimage, missionary purposes are tourists. Mecca, Jerusalem you name it.
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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:02 AM   #5407
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... or Vatican city on Sundays, or other special days
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Pilgrims are pilgrims, and tourists are tourists. I wouldn't confuse these terms. But I agree kingdom tower can probably pay for itself just from millions of pilgrims visiting it annually.
pilgrims consume local food and stay in hotels. they do exactly what tourists do. visit things they are interested in and bring money to these places. i don't see a huge difference between pilgrims and tourists.
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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:12 AM   #5409
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pilgrims consume local food and stay in hotels. they do exactly what tourists do. visit things they are interested in and bring money to these places. i don't see a huge difference between pilgrims and tourists.
Pilgrims also take pictures of supertalls being built!
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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:45 AM   #5410
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pilgrims consume local food and stay in hotels. they do exactly what tourists do. visit things they are interested in and bring money to these places. i don't see a huge difference between pilgrims and tourists.
Here's one: you need restricted hajj visa to became one. Businessman eat food and also stays in hotels but you don't call them tourists do you? What define a tourist is goal of the trip which for pilgrims are holy sites not entertainment.
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Pilgrims also take pictures of supertalls being built!
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Old May 26th, 2013, 12:56 AM   #5412
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Here's one: you need restricted hajj visa to became one. Businessman eat food and also stays in hotels but you don't call them tourists do you? What define a tourist is goal of the trip which for pilgrims are holy sites not entertainment.
tourists can also go to a city with a famous cathedral, then they also visit a holy site. and pilgrims can also visit other things in the city and not only the holy sites. pilgrims use their free time to visit places they have personal interest in, just like tourists. but it is off topic anyways.
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Old May 26th, 2013, 01:03 AM   #5413
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Lets put it this way: pilgrim or businessman may also be a tourist but all three terms are not interchangeable.
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Old May 26th, 2013, 01:09 AM   #5414
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They ALL are counted as tourists in statistics, how can't you know that?
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Old May 26th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #5415
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yet there is no "tourist"-word for business men, for pilgrims there is...

edit: there is a business tourism article on wikipedia, nevermind
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Old May 26th, 2013, 02:10 AM   #5416
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Well then it also should be for business man - say business tourism, or transit tourism

It's still just a religious tourism not a classic one. All I know is I'm a classic tourist and there's no tourist visa for me. Or for you or for anyone who wish visiting sa for anything else than pilgrimage.
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I can arrange a business visa if I'd want to
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Old May 26th, 2013, 10:56 AM   #5418
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Yeah you and 0,01% of people can do it. Truth is it's easier to get to north korea than sa.
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Well then it also should be for business man - say business tourism, or transit tourism

It's still just a religious tourism not a classic one. All I know is I'm a classic tourist and there's no tourist visa for me. Or for you or for anyone who wish visiting sa for anything else than pilgrimage.
You are right that it is possible and useful to distinguish between religious pilgrim and tourists. However the term tourist is also commonly used to collectively refer to people who visit a country for non-business purposes. That's a common linguistic phenomenon, the fact that words can have multiple meanings and that categorical terms can have different scopes depending on usage. For our discussion here, tourism is a proper and useful term to describe people visiting for religious purposes.
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It just doesn't feel right calling pilgrims tourists to me. I'm sure they wouldn't like to be called tourists either. But if you people are fine discussing tourism in country that doesn't even have tourist visa let it be your way.
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