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Old October 8th, 2014, 10:25 PM   #8941
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Well, you registered after BK was completed
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Old October 8th, 2014, 10:31 PM   #8942
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Old October 8th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #8943
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The entrances are at different heights. The 818m in the drawings was from the entrance at "ground level", the 828m was measured from the lowest entrance.
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Old October 8th, 2014, 10:45 PM   #8944
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Well, you registered after BK was completed
I was lurking this forum for maybe two years before I registered though, so I still should have known. :p

I actually registered, because that was the time i got my plane tickets to Singapore and knew i would stay in Dubai for a few hours to see the Burj on a stop-over.

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The entrances are at different heights. The 818m in the drawings was from the entrance at "ground level", the 828m was measured from the lowest entrance.
thanks, yeah so it is similar to my university then. I cannot really remember the building being on top of a slight slope though when I was there, but then again i was totally in awe and forgetting everything around me anyways when i visited it, haha.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 05:21 AM   #8945
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never heard about that before, do you have a link for me to read more about this? or can maybe explain what happened in a short way, don't want to make an offtopic discussion out of this, but am really interested in it since i didn't know about it. Is it build on a sloped gound floor? the maths building of my university has it that one side of the building has the entrance one floor above the other side, so i could imagine something like that, although in Dubai it would surprise me, since it is a rather flat terrain i would imagine.

Will there also be a similar case for Kingdom Tower as well, i think i have seen in some diagrams posted that the first floor starts at like 5m or so and at least parts of the under ground floors are above ground.
Hi Killer.
Just to elaborate on the above replies, which are correct.
The BK has 3 entrances - one on each of the 3 sides. The hotel entrance is on level 1, the residence entrance is on the ground level, and the office entrance is on the concourse level (and level B1).

Here is something I made up some years ago in regards to the council's decision to set the starting point for the 3 official measures at level B1.

CTBUH Official Measurements

(All 3 of the official measurements are measured from the finished floor at the threshold of the office entrance on level B1)

The CTBUH measures the official heights from the level of the lowest, significant, open air, pedestrian entrance.
1 - level. - The measure is taken from the top of the finished floor at the threshold of the entrance.
2 - lowest. - Even though the main office entrance is one level up, on the concourse level, the design has the entrance pavilion extending down to level B1 where there is an entrance from parking that leads to escalators that take people up to the same elevators that people who enter from the concourse level, use. This is therefore the lowest entrance.
3 - significant.
--- above grade or above pre-existing grade. - Level B1 is one of the two lower levels (three, counting the raft level). The pre-construction grade was + 2.50 meters Dubai Municipal Datum. Level B1 is +1.50 DMD so is below the pre-construction grade by 1 meter. An exception was made for this project in regards to both aspects of this point of the 'significant' criteria.
--- permits access to a primary use via elevators. - This is the case via the escalators.
---access to car park areas are not considered significant. - Another exception for this project perhaps because the water sculpture adds another use to the level other than parking.
4 - open air. - The sculpture sticks up through a large hole in the concourse level podium above level B1. This hole is quite close to the entrance allowing it to fit the open air criteria.
5 - pedestrian. - This is a tenant entrance and not just a service entrance.

I would be interested to get some info pertaining to the KT regarding datums and entrances.


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Old October 9th, 2014, 07:07 AM   #8946
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Nice infor, Why Human keep building this useless thing
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Old October 9th, 2014, 08:44 AM   #8947
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Nice infor, Why Human keep building this useless thing


It is not useless . Simply buy a large piece of land at a cheap price and then build the highest tower in the world then the price of the land will jump dramatically.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 08:55 AM   #8948
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Old October 9th, 2014, 10:35 AM   #8949
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Old October 9th, 2014, 01:17 PM   #8950
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I would be interested to get some info pertaining to the KT regarding datums and entrances.


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I don't remember seeing entrances, just a huge plaza like plane with staircases to underground parking or something .... but i might be wrong on my observation or interpretation
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Old October 9th, 2014, 02:20 PM   #8951
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It's sad that for non muslims it will be hard to see this tower
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Old October 9th, 2014, 02:49 PM   #8952
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That model is so tall, it looks like they bent the top trying to get it in the room

But the model does look fantastic!
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Old October 9th, 2014, 02:54 PM   #8953
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It's sad that for non muslims it will be hard to see this tower
it's mecca not Jeddah .

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Old October 10th, 2014, 01:25 AM   #8954
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That model is so tall, it looks like they bent the top trying to get it in the room
About 6 or 7 years ago I remember posting several Burj Dubai models that had the same problem. This was the only one I could find:

[IMG]http://i60.************/2aad72b.jpg[/IMG]

As KT's older brother would say: "Been there...done that."
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Old October 10th, 2014, 02:30 AM   #8955
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wow nice design
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Old October 10th, 2014, 05:43 AM   #8956
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what are you talking about ?
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Old October 10th, 2014, 07:13 AM   #8957
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Great photo! Even though its a model, looks super large, enormous and almost making a hole in the roof...
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Old October 10th, 2014, 08:32 PM   #8958
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They should have made it smaller
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Old October 11th, 2014, 04:10 AM   #8959
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They should have made it smaller
No offense but... what are you still doing here? this tower is all about limits... Unless you mean the model.... It should be the model.
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Old October 11th, 2014, 08:12 AM   #8960
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No offense but... what are you still doing here? this tower is all about limits... Unless you mean the model.... It should be the model.
I guess he just meant the pic of the model on the last page and not the 1007m of the tower itself.
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