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Old December 20th, 2014, 09:24 PM   #9641
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Skyscraper Bitexco Financial Tower from Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam a miniature version of Kingdom Tower.

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Kingdom Tower


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Old December 21st, 2014, 01:24 AM   #9642
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not even alike in any significant way except for the large protruding platform
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Old December 21st, 2014, 01:40 AM   #9643
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Hi, does anyone knows how high the observatory deck of KT will be? And will it still be highest in the world since Burj Khalifa opened its new deck to public at 555m (148th floor)
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Old December 21st, 2014, 01:45 AM   #9644
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I really fail to see how the spire on One World Trade Center is substantially different than the unusable structure topping out Kingdom Tower, other than one being much more aesthetically pleasing. Both serve little to no function other than hitting a certain structural height milestone.

That said, this debate is dumb no matter what side of the world it takes place on. Arbitrary lists are little more than that: arbitrary. Besides, buildings have always been more than just functional spaces. The Pyramids in Giza are probably 90% vanity height.
The spire on WTC1 is a telecomunication antenna. That is its main function. It adds nothing to the architectural design of the building. To me, it is obvious that the top of Kingdom Tower is substantially different from the so called "spire" of WTC1. I think calling the antenna of WTC1 "a spire" was a horrible mistake by the CTBUH. That institution lost all its credibility with that choice.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 02:34 AM   #9645
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I think you guys are over estimating the floor heights. Look at those trailers up front. Those usually are about 8 to 10 feet in height. 6 stacked on each other would be about the same height as the strucure. I doubt this tower will have such tiny floor heights especially on the lobby floor. Lobby floors are at least 25 to 50 feet. So at most the current structure represents only the first 2 to 3 levels. The yellow construction platforms in no way represent individual floors. I'd be shocked if that were the case.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 03:14 AM   #9646
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The white trailiers up front are a lot closer to the camera than the yellow structure of the building there making bit of an optitial ilusion,I think one yellow structure on the building would be equal to one floor
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Old December 21st, 2014, 03:17 AM   #9647
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Old December 21st, 2014, 03:22 AM   #9648
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Noticeable difference after only four days.
If you look at the platform stair tower right of centre ,it is 9 levels high,but does not reach the top of the yellow structures,it would be next to the building,so I think each yellow structure is equal to one floor
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Old December 21st, 2014, 04:28 AM   #9649
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I think you guys are over estimating the floor heights. Look at those trailers up front. Those usually are about 8 to 10 feet in height. 6 stacked on each other would be about the same height as the strucure. I doubt this tower will have such tiny floor heights especially on the lobby floor. Lobby floors are at least 25 to 50 feet. So at most the current structure represents only the first 2 to 3 levels. The yellow construction platforms in no way represent individual floors. I'd be shocked if that were the case.
I also think that some people overestimate the height of the scaffolding levels (they are certainly not equivalent to floors). My guess is that they are about 3m high from "floor to floor" while the actual floors of the building will be 4m or something. Still, the structure is certainly taller than "2 or 3 levels". In a few weeks when the actual floors become visible we will have it a lot easier
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Old December 21st, 2014, 02:28 PM   #9650
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The white trailiers up front are a lot closer to the camera than the yellow structure of the building there making bit of an optitial ilusion,I think one yellow structure on the building would be equal to one floor
Trailer on the right is at approx. same distance as core. Also trailers in front are still very close to the building and with such great zoom on that photo we can easily compare heights of scaffolding and trailers.
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Old December 21st, 2014, 04:50 PM   #9651
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Old December 21st, 2014, 05:03 PM   #9652
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According to the diagram, it's more than 30m tall now for sure !!
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Old December 21st, 2014, 05:38 PM   #9653
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does anyone knows how high the observatory deck of KT will be? (148th floor)
644m , 2113ft
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Old December 21st, 2014, 11:27 PM   #9654
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KINGDOM CITY MASTER PLAN















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Old December 22nd, 2014, 12:30 AM   #9655
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Kingdom City Master Plan

The Kingdom City project was envisaged as a modern landmark sub‐center in Saudi Arabia. Located on a 530 hectare site north of metropolitan Jeddah along the shores of the Red Sea, the project will have the world’s tallest building as its centerpiece, the Kingdom Tower (currently under construction). The Tower will not only attract foreign investment to the city, but will also be a significant icon both for the city of Jeddah, and for Saudi Arabia.

Calthorpe Associates won an international design competition for the Master Plan of this unique community. The design consists of a master-planned community of distinctive neighborhoods with a commercial core featuring international offices, a first-class retail establishment, unique open spaces and diverse residential communities. The Master Plan is the end result of a series of studies, analyses and the application of urban design principles reflecting the vision and objectives of the client. Through the collaborative efforts between Jeddah Economic Company and Calthorpe Associates, the plan will produce a healthy and vibrant community, an integrated urban environment that will fluidly evolve into the primary economic and social heart of the City of Jeddah.

The project will provide a quality living, working and entertainment environment for the residents of Jeddah, visitors from other parts of Saudi Arabia, and for international visitors. The project is expected to accommodate a population of 210,000 residents and host 197,500 non‐residents who will enjoy its world class facilities.


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Old December 22nd, 2014, 01:07 AM   #9656
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Interesting, that would be about or slightly more than manhattan density in both residents and daytime population, albeit over a much smaller area, similar to Dubai marina.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 02:36 AM   #9657
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 06:12 AM   #9658
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Because some of you here asked

تأشيرات سياحية لدخول السعودية تطبق بعد 6 أشهر


أقر نظام الهيئة العامة للسياحة الحصول على تأشيرة سياحية سارية المفعول لكل من يرغب بالدخول إلى السعودية بغرض السياحة، بالنسبة للمسافرين الذين يتطلب منهم النظام الحصول على تأشيرة قبل دخول المملكة.

وبحسب النظام الجديد فتصدر الهيئة أذونات التأشيرات السياحية وفق ضوابط متفق عليها بين الهيئة العامة للسياحة ووزارتي الداخلية والخارجية، وتوضح اللائحة إجراءات وآليات إصدار أذونات التأشيرات السياحية، ويعمل بهذا النظام بعد 6 أشهر.

وجاء في النظام الصادر للهيئة العامة للسياحة والآثار أن كل من يخالف إصدار شهادات التصنيف لمرافق الإيواء السياحي والأنشطة والمهن السياحية، يغرم بمبلغ 50 ألف ريال، إضافة إلى من يمنع موظفي هيئة السياحة من مراقبة ودخول مرافق الإيواء السياحي، والأماكن التي تمارس فيها الأنشطة السياحية.

ويهدف النظام إلى تنظيم العلاقة فيما بين المرافق السياحية والخدمات المتعلقة بالنشاط السياحي بوجه عام، وكل من يمارس أي نشاط متعلق بهذا النظام، أو من يستفيد منه، بحسب الاقتصادية.

وشمل النظام اقتراح الهيئة تحديد الأماكن السياحية العامة بالتنسيق مع الجهات ذات العلاقة، وتحديد لائحة القواعد المنظمة لذلك، حيث تعد الأماكن السياحية العامة مصونة بحكم النظام، ولا يجوز للغير تملكها، وتستغلها الدولة أو تستثمرها أو تؤجرها للقطاع الخاص عن طريق المنافسة العامة.

ولم يجز النظام مزاولة نشاط تشغيل مرافق الإيواء السياحي أو مزاولة نشاط تنظيم الرحلات السياحية، أو نشاط وكالات السفر والسياحة، أو نشاط مكاتب حجز وحدات الإيواء السياحي، وتسويقها إلا بالحصول على رخصة من الهيئة، بعد توافر الشروط والمتطلبات وتقديم الضمانات اللازمة.

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Tourist visas to enter Saudi Arabia applied in 6 months

QTA system approved to obtain a tourist visa valid for anyone who wishes to enter Saudi Arabia for the purpose of tourism, for travelers who order requires them to obtain a visa before entering the kingdom.

According to the new system, the body of tourist visas are issued in accordance with the permissions controls agreed between the General Authority for Tourism domestic and foreign ministries, and describes the procedures and mechanisms of regulation issued tourist visas, permissions, and works with this system after 6 months.

According to a regulation issued by the General Authority for Tourism and Antiquities that anyone who violates the certification rating for facilities tourist accommodation, activities and professions tourist, fined $ 50 thousand riyals, as well as of preventing the Tourism Authority staff to monitor and entry tourist accommodation facilities, places where tourism activities practiced.

The system aims to regulate the relationship between tourism facilities and services related to tourism in general, all of the exercise of any activity related to this system, or benefit from it, according to the economic.

The system included a proposal to the Commission to determine the general tourist places in coordination with the relevant authorities, and determine the list of the rules governing it, where is the public tourist places are protected by virtue of the system, and may not be of the non-owned, and exploited by the state or invested by or leased to the private sector through public competition.

The system is not permissible to engage Activity run tourist accommodation or business of organizing tours facilities, or activity and travel and tourism agencies, or activity offices booking units of tourist accommodation, and marketed only to obtain a license from the Commission, after fulfillment of the conditions and requirements and to provide the necessary guarantees.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 11:51 AM   #9659
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There are contradicting reports

"السياحة والآثار" تصدر بياناً غداً لتوضيح الأمر
لا إصدار للتأشيرات السياحية.. والأولوية للسائح السعودي والخليجي

http://sabq.org/252d3f

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/saudi-...nied-1.1430192

I guess they always keep doing this just to probe the general atmosphere toward the idea.
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Old December 22nd, 2014, 02:39 PM   #9660
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