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Old April 6th, 2015, 06:21 PM   #10981
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which one?

this 1050m:
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this 838m:
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or this 2400m monster:
whats the name of these buildings? are they really gonna be constructed?
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Old April 6th, 2015, 06:41 PM   #10982
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whats the name of these buildings? are they really gonna be constructed?
The first one is approved and has good chances to be build but construction start will need a few years from now on because the plot doesn't even exists:
www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1477349

The second one is officially on hold but i doubt that it will ever be build:
www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1242295

And the last one is a vision concept for Dubai.
www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1193257
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Old April 6th, 2015, 09:30 PM   #10983
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So I have seen a number people post that the floor plates will not extend beyond the concrete we see now, and that the ends of each leg will be the concrete wall see now. I think this is wrong for several reasons, first if you look at the end walls, they have a very rough finish, and tarnish the exterior appearance. Second is that concrete has a very different thermal quality than glass, and that end wall would become a giant heat sink.
Third, if you go back a number of pages to the aerial shots from the web at the base the floor seems to surround the whole structure several feet from the concrete core.

Last money, in a build of this size every inch of window space is worth money, people buy high floors for the views, to have no view in three directions would cost a lot of money. Just think what a suite could get parked on the corner of each floor.
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Old April 6th, 2015, 09:48 PM   #10984
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I hope the floors are extended past the exterior edge.
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Old April 6th, 2015, 10:03 PM   #10985
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I hope the floors are extended past the exterior edge.
They won't
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Old April 6th, 2015, 10:17 PM   #10986
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that red crane probably will be the tallest crane in the world when KT will do topping off...
probably will be liebherr crane (TC1)



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Old April 6th, 2015, 10:29 PM   #10987
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They won't
Who would ever want to live in a windowless building. That would make the building essentially worthless on its own
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Old April 6th, 2015, 11:43 PM   #10988
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I hope the floors are extended past the exterior edge.
Well, they certainly will not.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 12:08 AM   #10989
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I hope the floors are extended past the exterior edge.
We had the discussion about floor space at the edge of the wings in this thread over a few pages long. It stopped at a point because according to the renders and available information for the most friends here the solution was clearly enough, the floor space at the wings seemed unlikely.
But i was never realy satisfied with this conclusion. I wrote a mail to GG & AS for more information but till now (and never) i get an answer.
Now the tower has reached a level of construction from what we will witness the "truth" perhaps in a few weeks. I`m very excited to know about this case
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Old April 7th, 2015, 12:21 AM   #10990
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Nope... There will be just glass put on the concretr in the corners.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 01:28 AM   #10991
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Nope... There will be just glass put on the concretr in the corners.
What makes you so sure? In a short explanation?
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Old April 7th, 2015, 02:12 AM   #10992
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Mostly it‘s multiple diagrams such as this one:



Then there are the visuals. And now, when we can see some formworks for the floor plates at the construction site and they are still not at the edges, I am totally sure. Still might be wrong though but it is not very likely. The odds are against common sence in this case. I don't think I've ever seen a diagram with the plates at the edges. And speaking of visuals I've seen just one with lights turned on at the edges.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 02:29 AM   #10993
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That are good and convincing arguments, i think you're right in this case. But i also hope you're wrong because only glass on concrete isn't much fun
And perhaps the one render showing lights suggesting there were floors at the wings isn't totally wrong. It could be they make a light installation behind the glass plates.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 11:06 AM   #10994
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We know the wings do not set back in any way. The whole building is essentially three right angle triangles put together.

Thus, I think it would be rather simple to find out the final height of this building using just the 'tan' calculation. You just need to know the length from the wing's outer edge to the center of the core, and the angle of the tallest wing.

So tan(a)° =height/length of wing


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Old April 7th, 2015, 12:18 PM   #10995
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We know the wings do not set back in any way. The whole building is essentially three right angle triangles put together.

Thus, I think it would be rather simple to find out the final height of this building using just the 'tan' calculation. You just need to know the length from the wing's outer edge to the center of the core, and the angle of the tallest wing.

So tan(a)° =height/length of wing...
If i get it right you can calculate the length of the wings on every hight with this equotation? Could you say the lengh at the base?
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Old April 7th, 2015, 01:27 PM   #10996
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Well... We can see the floor plates will extend the outside wall of the wings, which will almost double it. So I think there will actually be some windows, but not on the entire lenght of the wall.
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Old April 7th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #10997
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Old April 7th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #10998
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Old April 7th, 2015, 10:25 PM   #10999
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Omg really? Really? Always u see a triangld u think it is illuminati it is just a triangle , i have triangles in my maths old books and i dont think they are illuminati...
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Old April 7th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #11000
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What do you think how long can stand this building? 100, 200, 300 years? 1000? It is able to stand as much as the pyramids in Egypt?
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