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Old May 4th, 2015, 07:52 AM   #11281
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More like 1000m+ because 1km is a magical mark.
It's not. 1000 is a round number only to slightly intelligent 10-finger species, that went from caves just yesterday and don't know about the worst thing with the Decimal Numeral System: it's one of the most unnatural notations, one of the farthest from Mathematics - the language of our Universe.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #11282
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It's not. 1000 is a round number only to slightly intelligent 10-finger species, that went from caves just yesterday and don't know about the worst thing with the Decimal Numeral System: it's one of the most unnatural notations, one of the farthest from Mathematics - the language of our Universe.
Sorry, but i think nobody cares about your mathematic lesson
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Old May 4th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #11283
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Maybe im being silly, but what are the odds that it eventually it proves to be impossible to built this tall and the structure will collapse. We never built this tall.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 11:57 AM   #11284
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Strongly agree with this
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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:03 PM   #11285
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..... it eventually it proves to be impossible to built this tall and the structure will collapse. We never built this tall.
BK already stands for 5 years or so.

KT is only 200 m higher.
For sure, man can build this high nowadays.

Being an engineer myself, I think that even, say, 2000 m is possible.
But effort and costs will grow to enormous heights as well...
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Old May 4th, 2015, 12:31 PM   #11286
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BK already stands for 5 years or so.

KT is only 200 m higher.
For sure, man can build this high nowadays.

Being an engineer myself, I think that even, say, 2000 m is possible.
But effort and costs will grow to enormous heights as well...
Was that a pun you put in there?
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Old May 4th, 2015, 02:23 PM   #11287
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Maybe im being silly, but what are the odds that it eventually it proves to be impossible to built this tall and the structure will collapse. We never built this tall.
You're talking about a zero-chance probability. To an average engineer, it's a routine, and not a guesswork, as it is to an average walk-on.

Don't even consider the Hyatt Regency walkway collapse - it was designed by somebody who accidentally and by a weird twist of fate has found himself on the place of an engineer.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 05:30 PM   #11288
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It's not. 1000 is a round number only to slightly intelligent 10-finger species, that went from caves just yesterday and don't know about the worst thing with the Decimal Numeral System: it's one of the most unnatural notations, one of the farthest from Mathematics - the language of our Universe.
It's not that bad. Only the base number 10 is arbitrary, the rest is perfectly logical.
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Old May 4th, 2015, 08:19 PM   #11289
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Maybe im being silly, but what are the odds that it eventually it proves to be impossible to built this tall and the structure will collapse. We never built this tall.
The odds that it's impossible to build this tall - very, very, very near zero. We've got the mechanics of materials mapped out pretty well by now, and very good analyses of how these materials behave under different conditions. We could probably build twice as tall as the Kingdom Tower without any non-financial problems.

The odds that the structure will collapse - bigger, but still darn close to zero. Enough money goes into this project to ensure that those kinds of corners aren't cut.


All in all, engineering is not guesswork. The amount of money involved is also an indicator - no investor would choose to put this much money and prestige into something that couldn't be guaranteed to be standing. The building is readily designed - with several layers of safety factors - before the first shovel hits the earth on site.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 12:25 AM   #11290
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It looks disproportionately small... In my opinion, the bevel side structure must be less than... It feels like they want to build it lower than intended. Actually, to be honest, this construction is not perceived as the next tallest building: Kingdom Tower is located in the desert, for the building not dug pit, still various small moments ... If you were watching the beginning of the construction of Burj Khalifa, tell me what you were feeling and whether they are similar to the ones that you are experiencing now from this building
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Old May 5th, 2015, 01:31 AM   #11291
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That is ridiculous.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 08:14 AM   #11292
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Yes, the russian kid's picture is very lame and silly
Maksnikiforov, better go and draw bears playing balalaika and drinking vodka!
If you do this properly in AutoCAD, you're gonna get around the same figure as announced. I had 1001m tall triangle - with a picture from one of the previous pages. The maximum width of the tower can be measured in wikimapia.org map - it's 105m.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 09:02 AM   #11293
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The homepage is live now Alltho I can't link to it since I only have 8 posts so far
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Yes, the russian kid's picture is very lame and silly
Maksnikiforov, better go and draw bears playing balalaika and drinking vodka!
If you do this properly in AutoCAD, you're gonna get around the same figure as announced. I had 1001m tall triangle - with a picture from one of the previous pages. The maximum width of the tower can be measured in wikimapia.org map - it's 105m.
I'll be happy to be wrong, and the tower is all right. Also, I'm 21
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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:19 AM   #11295
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Man this thread is a tease. I keep checking back and every time I somehow expect a finished tower.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:41 AM   #11296
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Could you post a text copy of the URL please (I believe this should be possible ) - this sounds exciting!
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Old May 5th, 2015, 10:44 AM   #11297
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Old May 5th, 2015, 12:11 PM   #11298
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Old May 5th, 2015, 01:38 PM   #11299
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Just awesome

I just wish Jeddah will loosen up all rules and laws toward tourists cz then it has the potential to become a great worldwide destination.
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Old May 5th, 2015, 01:54 PM   #11300
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I hope the construction will gain some speed over the next 2 months, still pretty slow.
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