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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:00 AM   #11701
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I don't know lads what are you drawing your conclusions from, but it's very obvious now: this project is poorly managed and suffers from pretty indecisive and incapable governance.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:20 AM   #11702
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I don't know lads what are you drawing your conclusions from, but it's very obvious now: this project is poorly managed and suffers from pretty indecisive and incapable governance.
i just compared the construction pics with the ones from Burj Khalifa. BK didn't rise faster in the first half year, the progress on the pics is almost the same. So i don't worry at this time.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 12:55 PM   #11703
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Indeed no big worries.
But I think the total really IS behind schedule at the moment.

As I cited in my posting #11730, the planning said that level 47 would be reached in September 2015.
30 levels in 3 months IS possible, but than they should pick up pace very soon.


To say that the project is poorly managed: that's nonsense.
The people who lead this project (Saudi's and others) know very well what they are doing, and what enormous job they have to accomplish.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 01:42 PM   #11704
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Old June 10th, 2015, 04:52 PM   #11705
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Just adding more workers will most often not solve such problems as delay.

There is a practical limit to the amount of people that can work simultaneously on a construction site.
First of all, there is the resource limitation in skills, available space, and supervision.
Then, there are logistical limitations (supply of materials, limited by the delivering companies, the capacity of the cranes and the construction elevators), etc.
Then, the required drying time of concrete limits the amount of form jumps in time.

They are already working 24/24, so also there, no capacity can be gained.

Myriads of reasons can be found why just adding more people to the site will not speed up.
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Old June 10th, 2015, 10:53 PM   #11706
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yeah, they work 24/7 more spped is only possible in china
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:23 PM   #11707
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yeah, they work 24/7
No , currently 24/6
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Old June 10th, 2015, 11:45 PM   #11708
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They don't work on Fridays.

As for what's going on right now, have they replaced TC2 with TC3 recently (the red crane with a jumping red crane) or have I missed something big?
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Old June 11th, 2015, 01:55 AM   #11709
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So why not hire more chinese worker?
I know a lot of chinese work in construction industry in middle east.
This masterpiece need to be build as soon it possible.
Only 6% of the heignt have been constructed.
They build burj khlalifa in 6 years.
For me it going to be finish in 2021 or 2022 like that.
And i hope it will not be cancel one day in the future.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 03:38 AM   #11710
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I'd appreciate if K.S.A posted smaller pictures... its not that hard to resize
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Old June 11th, 2015, 07:34 AM   #11711
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I'd appreciate if K.S.A posted smaller pictures... its not that hard to resize
I don't mind the bigger photos. In that last one, I could, for the first time, see the levels numbered - though somewhat obscured by the scaffolding in the foreground. I could see up to L7.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 07:38 AM   #11712
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As I cited in my posting #11730, the planning said that level 47 would be reached in September 2015.
30 levels in 3 months IS possible, but than they should pick up pace very soon.

Well, that would mean they'd have to complete a level every 3 days for the next 3 months (about 90 days). That's a tall order!
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Old June 11th, 2015, 11:25 AM   #11713
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Wow those numbers look very familiar.

I believe Burj Khalifa has almost the same number of occupied floors (163 according to Wikipedia). So Kingdom Tower is basically the same as BK only having a much longer spire.

Btw. if all floors, occupied and unoccupied, are counted for BK it has 211 floors. But you never hear this number, officially it has "just" 163.

So with Kingdom Tower floor count will probably always be known as 167, just merely 4 floors more than BK.
Not sure why but all this time I thought Burj Khalifa had 189 occupiable floors. Interesting...
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Old June 11th, 2015, 11:37 AM   #11714
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Well, that would mean they'd have to complete a level every 3 days for the next 3 months (about 90 days). That's a tall order!
At Burj Khalifa, such speed was actually possible (2 floors in 1 week; probably also in Dubai, they did not work on Friday's, I'm not sure).
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Old June 11th, 2015, 05:52 PM   #11715
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Now I can say this building has become a reality. I like it.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 06:05 PM   #11716
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It looks lonely right there in the desert. Is there anything being planned to buildup the area?
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Old June 11th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #11717
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Yes, there will be a city around it.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 06:08 PM   #11718
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It looks lonely right there in the desert. Is there anything being planned to buildup the area?
I think we need more info on the city that is being built.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 06:13 PM   #11719
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Yes, there will be a city around it.
That makes a lot of sense. It means this is more about a city than having the tallest building in the world in that part of the region in a nutshell.
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Old June 11th, 2015, 06:50 PM   #11720
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