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Old January 28th, 2016, 10:09 AM   #13881
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I'm sure we won't see any cladding until summer.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 05:25 PM   #13882
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These towers are like the space needle or cn tower, except with floors all the way up, and a big hat on top.

Edit: to the below, I don't want to make another post, but nothing you said proved my statement false.

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Old January 28th, 2016, 06:11 PM   #13883
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These towers are like the space needle or cn tower, except with floors all the way up, and a big hat on top.
Wrong, KT has 167 floors, 439 apartments, 200 hotel rooms and more floor area than the Empire State Building. The Space Needle and CN Tower are like the Eiffel Tower.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 06:20 PM   #13884
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You're both right. This is a huge building with a huge spire on top.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 07:21 PM   #13885
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I think it's time to care about the area around Jeddah Tower. It's still an empty desert. When Burj Khalifa was in the construction phase of Jeddah Tower now, there was a lot of construction going on all around it including the Dubai Mall, The Dubai Fountains, The Address Downtown Dubai and multiple residential buildings.
If the Kingdom City won't be under construction soon, I'm afraid that the JT will be surrounded by a massive, sandy construction site when it's completed. Just take an example of Dubai: Even though it's 2016, 6 years after BK's completion, the Downtown Area hasn't reached it's full density by far. There are still a lot of empty plots and construction sites all around it.
The Jeddah Tower could be a bigger flop than BK concerning occupancy. Who wants to live/work in a tower and look out on an endless sea of cranes and sand?


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Old January 28th, 2016, 07:22 PM   #13886
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You're both right. This is a huge building with a huge spire on top.
Just like One World Trade Center .
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Old January 28th, 2016, 07:34 PM   #13887
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No
One World Trade Center is an ugly building, with an ugly spire
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Old January 28th, 2016, 08:21 PM   #13888
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One World Trade Center is an ugly building, with an ugly spire
No again, WTC is an ugly building with a really ugly antennae on top. To even call that a spire is charitable.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 09:27 PM   #13889
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I think it's time to care about the area around Jeddah Tower. It's still an empty desert. When Burj Khalifa was in the construction phase of Jeddah Tower now, there was a lot of construction going on all around it including the Dubai Mall, The Dubai Fountains, The Address Downtown Dubai and multiple residential buildings.
If the Kingdom City won't be under construction soon, I'm afraid that the JT will be surrounded by a massive, sandy construction site when it's completed. Just take an example of Dubai: Even though it's 2016, 6 years after BK's completion, the Downtown Area hasn't reached it's full density by far. There are still a lot of empty plots and construction sites all around it.
The Jeddah Tower could be a bigger flop than BK concerning occupancy. Who wants to live/work in a tower and look out on an endless sea of cranes and sand?

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Kingdom City 2025 = Only desert? Huge construction site?
Don't expect to see much development around the tower any time soon.

Burj Khalifa is centrally located and at the time there was a boom. The site at the time of construction abutted Sheikh Zayed road on one side and the World trade center on another. Development around the tower wasn't a hard sell.

Jeddah tower however is far away, and there is a supply glut.
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Old January 29th, 2016, 12:10 AM   #13890
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No again, WTC is an ugly building with a really ugly antennae on top. To even call that a spire is charitable.
I think the 1WTC building (the 94 floor, 1368 ft structure) is actually quite attractive, it is the unclad "spirantenna" which is so architecturally discordant. While the Kingdom Tower is architecturally harmonious.
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Old January 29th, 2016, 01:47 AM   #13891
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Don't expect to see much development around the tower any time soon.

Burj Khalifa is centrally located and at the time there was a boom. The site at the time of construction abutted Sheikh Zayed road on one side and the World trade center on another. Development around the tower wasn't a hard sell.

Jeddah tower however is far away, and there is a supply glut.
i think after one Year We gonna See Huge building Around it
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Old January 29th, 2016, 12:21 PM   #13892
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I'm sure we won't see any cladding until summer.
In my Opinion, Nothing before 2017
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Old January 29th, 2016, 12:25 PM   #13893
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I think it's time to care about the area around Jeddah Tower. It's still an empty desert. When Burj Khalifa was in the construction phase of Jeddah Tower now, there was a lot of construction going on all around it including the Dubai Mall, The Dubai Fountains, The Address Downtown Dubai and multiple residential buildings.
If the Kingdom City won't be under construction soon, I'm afraid that the JT will be surrounded by a massive, sandy construction site when it's completed. Just take an example of Dubai: Even though it's 2016, 6 years after BK's completion, the Downtown Area hasn't reached it's full density by far. There are still a lot of empty plots and construction sites all around it.
The Jeddah Tower could be a bigger flop than BK concerning occupancy. Who wants to live/work in a tower and look out on an endless sea of cranes and sand?


Downtown Dubai 2005:



Downtown Dubai 2015:




Kingdom City 2015:


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Kingdom City 2025 = Only desert? Huge construction site?


Don't forget that there is around 200M difference in the length between BK and KT. So, I think most of the works will start at the beginning of 2017.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 03:05 AM   #13894
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Wrong, KT has 167 floors, 439 apartments, 200 hotel rooms and more floor area than the Empire State Building. The Space Needle and CN Tower are like the Eiffel Tower.
He is not wrong at all, all are made as huge 3 legged towers, but as he said the other two only have floors at top and bottom. The Eiffel tower is square and made of steal, not at all like any of these 3 legged concrete towers.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 03:17 AM   #13895
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What I find interesting about the Kingdom/Jeddah Tower (other than obviously its extraordinary planned height), is how small and few the rooms appear to be. They seem really rather narrow - seemingly about two door widths wide (although granted hard to tell from our angles). I guess this is OK for hotel rooms and that sort of thing but it will be interesting to see when larger open space will be noticeable, such as restaurants etc and how they will be laid out.

In particular it's interesting to see the bulk of the Burj Khalifa in the photo on the previous page - it looks huge. KT doesn't seem like it's going to be quite so bulky!
Most likely restaurants will be in lower areas so that the expensive high floors are not wasted on kitchens and so forth. If you eat at the top of the CN Tower, your meal is actually made the bottom, where space is cheaper, and you don't have fire concerns.

As far as hotel and apartments go loo at the close up, like on previous page, there is a lot of space between those outward walls, and from the floor edge to back walls is also very large.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 09:32 AM   #13896
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Most likely restaurants will be in lower areas so that the expensive high floors are not wasted on kitchens and so forth.
The Atmosphere restaurant in Burj Khalifa is on the 122nd floor at 442m. Including a kitchen
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Old January 30th, 2016, 02:00 PM   #13897
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I suppose they could use a food lift from below stairs, like in olde English country houses.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 04:16 PM   #13898
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Old January 30th, 2016, 08:37 PM   #13899
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Parts of both visible wings jumped there.

P.S. In the middle frame of that time-lapse, could that have been a dust devil going by?
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Old January 31st, 2016, 02:01 AM   #13900
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