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Old April 26th, 2016, 01:57 AM   #14861
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It's now as often the case as it was with Burj Khalifa when it was built. Sometimes there are cultural or symbolic reasons for skipping floors (4, I think, or for example 13 in the US), but for mechanical floors you can see they're well above the height of traditional floors for machinery. Thus one or two mech floors is 3 or 4 regular ones. BK did it at every mechanical stop, too. Skipped floors at about 19, 40-41, 73-74, 109, 137, 156-160 M3 or something like that.

The long and short of it in my eyes is the height is still there, just not at an elevator landing (or one that is at least accessible to the public). It's not like the architects are skipping floors on a whim... usually.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 02:49 AM   #14862
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Old April 26th, 2016, 02:50 AM   #14863
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Old April 26th, 2016, 03:30 AM   #14864
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Old April 26th, 2016, 03:52 AM   #14865
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Great update thanks looks amazing
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Old April 26th, 2016, 05:11 AM   #14866
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Hi!

for this section, there is no Mezzanine floor..and I will post the zoomed in for this section.
any way, there is something fishy when it comes to these floors






so as you see in the in-officially published section, it shows the numbering 38 - 42 spreading over 3 floors.
The drawing does indeed show a small mezzanine level above level 39.

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It could be! I need to ask specifically about this.
But what I noticed on most people working on this project directly, that they don't give straight or clear answer when talking about mechanical floors.
On the other hand, I personally believe that we cannot call a small slab on one side of the building a "floor", yet it could be the reason of skipping "40"
Typically mezzanine levels are not the full floor area of the level below. This is the reason for calling them mezzanine levels.

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It's now as often the case as it was with Burj Khalifa when it was built. Sometimes there are cultural or symbolic reasons for skipping floors (4, I think, or for example 13 in the US), but for mechanical floors you can see they're well above the height of traditional floors for machinery. Thus one or two mech floors is 3 or 4 regular ones. BK did it at every mechanical stop, too. Skipped floors at about 19, 40-41, 73-74, 109, 137, 156-160 M3 or something like that.

The long and short of it in my eyes is the height is still there, just not at an elevator landing (or one that is at least accessible to the public). It's not like the architects are skipping floors on a whim... usually.
Good insight.
The BK skipped 4 levels in the naming scheme, each just above a tall MEP level. The BK did include the mezzanine levels in the naming scheme though just as did this project for levels B1M, 2M, and 4M. The difference is, this project is doing the skipping just above the mezz. levels.

Here is how I'm thinking they will name the levels based on how they named the lower levels that have mezzanine levels (from levels 2 to 6)

plan section_3_cr by Fury1961, on Flickr

I would think it would be the same for the levels around 15.

It would make sense but until we get a fully labeled drawing we can only guess.


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Old April 26th, 2016, 08:21 AM   #14867
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Gosh, Chinese tetraphobia is contagious? I thought Middle East has no number phobias... It's such a pity to see the world still dancing to the loony shamans flute.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 11:24 AM   #14868
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I only post this because of likes...but I didn't mean my post as derogatory about what view is from the highest observation deck as I don't really know the area. Many observation decks around the world look out over cities and the surrounding environment that can be spectacular, harbours, mountains lots to wonder at...I know this magnificent structure is somewhere in the Middle East...and overlooks...?
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Old April 26th, 2016, 11:49 AM   #14869
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I only post this because of likes...but I didn't mean my post as derogatory about what view is from the highest observation deck as I don't really know the area. Many observation decks around the world look out over cities and the surrounding environment that can be spectacular, harbours, mountains lots to wonder at...I know this magnificent structure is somewhere in the Middle East...and overlooks...?
Not just some where.. It's in 'Jeddah', A unique city in Saudi Arabia which lies along the Red Sea with Beautiful beaches and A future tourist Hot Spot of the region. We have many cool stuff in the city like The Tallest Fountain in the World or The Tallest Lighthouse in The World or the largest open air Museum in the World etc but all these facts do not seem to get the attention. Saudi Arabia is now opening to all tourists who can enjoy this city too in the Middle East.
The Observation Deck overlooks the The Beautiful Red Sea and The City of Jeddah and all the beautiful future buildings or towers of Jeddah Economic City.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 12:23 PM   #14870
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Soon we'll see the first balconies.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 02:29 PM   #14871
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Do you now what floor numbers have a balcony?

In the diagram, we can not see it.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 02:32 PM   #14872
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Is there are thread for the other developments in the area surrounding JT?
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Old April 26th, 2016, 04:57 PM   #14873
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Not just some where.. It's in 'Jeddah', A unique city in Saudi Arabia which lies along the Red Sea with Beautiful beaches and A future tourist Hot Spot of the region. We have many cool stuff in the city like The Tallest Fountain in the World or The Tallest Lighthouse in The World or the largest open air Museum in the World etc but all these facts do not seem to get the attention. Saudi Arabia is now opening to all tourists who can enjoy this city too in the Middle East.
The Observation Deck overlooks the The Beautiful Red Sea and The City of Jeddah and all the beautiful future buildings or towers of Jeddah Economic City.
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My understanding is Saudi Arabia has no intention of issuing Tourist Visas to foreigners.
It ran a very limited tourist visa program in 2014, which was quickly cancelled.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 05:34 PM   #14874
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My understanding is Saudi Arabia has no intention of issuing Tourist Visas to foreigners.
It ran a very limited tourist visa program in 2014, which was quickly cancelled.
One of many economics reforms announced recently to eliminate our oil dependence is tourism. They plan to issue green cards similar to U.S system and open the country to people. It will take time and effort, but it will happen.
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Old April 26th, 2016, 07:14 PM   #14875
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I hate to sound like a broken record but when will surrounding buildings start? That was a pleasure for me when Burj Khalifa was being build was watching the other towers go up around it. This has been a little boring to me.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 03:55 AM   #14876
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I agree,this is a little like watching the paint dry,it will become much more interesting in the future once it gets higher and the cladding is being installed and the towers around it start to rise and roads are constructed
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Old April 27th, 2016, 07:42 PM   #14877
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Will it be exactly a kilometer from the shoreline? If so it will form an isosceles 45° right triangle.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 08:55 PM   #14878
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Illuminati confirmed.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 10:12 PM   #14879
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Old April 28th, 2016, 03:45 AM   #14880
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Will it be exactly a kilometer from the shoreline? If so it will form an isosceles 45° right triangle.
can you explain your statement further? I don't speak engineering language but what you said seems interesting.
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