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Old July 3rd, 2016, 03:44 PM   #15281
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In GCC, nobody needs any evidence to be aware about it.
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Old July 3rd, 2016, 04:48 PM   #15282
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This building is going up using slave labour from India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...says-1.2675941

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4097573/

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/07...d-child-labour
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Old July 3rd, 2016, 06:11 PM   #15283
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oh my gud where is the UN? pls help! we have uncivilized nation and we must attack it. oh my gud. Lets nuke them lol.

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Old July 4th, 2016, 02:38 AM   #15284
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Great clicks indeed, thanks a lot for posting them, really a pleasure....
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Old July 4th, 2016, 07:56 AM   #15285
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I swear half the posts on this thread are demeaning toward middle easterns the other half are complaints about the building smh
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Old July 4th, 2016, 10:39 AM   #15286
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I swear half the posts on this thread are demeaning toward middle easterns the other half are complaints about the building smh
lool where is the lie
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Old July 4th, 2016, 11:46 AM   #15287
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I swear half the posts on this thread are demeaning toward middle easterns the other half are complaints about the building smh
Was this thread renamed, for a second, to "swear here". I didn't see on SSC any swearing yet, it's just a mauvais ton here. Find some forum for punks, swearing there is absolutely comme il faut.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 12:54 PM   #15288
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No article says something about the workers condition at the KT.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 01:32 PM   #15289
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Is it possible that the current slow progress is because of ramadan?
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Old July 4th, 2016, 02:10 PM   #15290
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It's been slow for months
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Old July 4th, 2016, 02:32 PM   #15291
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Eid is tomorrow, so one more week.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 03:00 PM   #15292
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I always wonder, why the designers of it wanted to have so much headaches with the floor plans... There is a plenty of extra work, because every floor's plan for sloped towers is different from all the others. Different are the areas (sq. meterage), MEP infra, load schedules, air/light/water capacities etc. And then, every few floors the layouts should be changed completely, because on the higher floors you can no longer have too small areas of the same function. And they are taking all this pain for nothing in return: BK's tiered design is much more architectural, practical, safer and in many other ways more advantageous than JT's.
I totally understand what you are saying, and yes it must add exponential complexity, particularly when they try and start the fit out with lots of sloping and tapering walls -

Two reasons for this design spring to mind -
1) To distance itself architecturally from BK
2) There maybe structural advantages in a more contiguous, less modular design, ie the continuous tapering outer walls can direct very efficient lines of force down into the foundations. Stacked and tied cylinders, like BK, appear less efficient in this sense.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 04:50 PM   #15293
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No article says something about the workers condition at the KT.
The links were in reply to Canuckdave in Toronto.
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Old July 4th, 2016, 06:24 PM   #15294
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I totally understand what you are saying, and yes it must add exponential complexity, particularly when they try and start the fit out with lots of sloping and tapering walls -

Two reasons for this design spring to mind -
1) To distance itself architecturally from BK
2) There maybe structural advantages in a more contiguous, less modular design, ie the continuous tapering outer walls can direct very efficient lines of force down into the foundations. Stacked and tied cylinders, like BK, appear less efficient in this sense.
LargeChris, I totally agree with you on all your points. But I'm a very confident believer that in architecture and civil engineering all problems are solvable in a nice and workable way. Keeping the efficacy of the force lines directions aside, here's a super-quick empty-headed example of how the 2 pro-reasons addressed by your insighful mind can be treated in an alternative way, avoiding such a huge amount of sloped surfaces:

1,040m Tower Sketch

I repeat it again: from an engineers POV, this is not the most rational design.
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Old July 5th, 2016, 04:07 AM   #15295
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Still looks neat though . Yeah I figure since they want to safely push these kinds of heights, structural efficiency is probably priority #1, then making the MEP and everything else to follow is secondary. The concept may be architectural but the execution is purely enginnering for a tower this size I'd argue.
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Old July 5th, 2016, 04:47 PM   #15296
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Not one of these articles references Jeddah.
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Old July 6th, 2016, 03:19 PM   #15297
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Not one of these articles references Jeddah.
That is correct because I was replying to this post by Canuckdave in Toronto :
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Old July 10th, 2016, 05:55 AM   #15298
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yeh his links were not right at all. but he does speak some truth read these ones instead.

http://www.arabnews.com/saudi-arabia/news/881831

http://www.redressonline.com/2013/10...he-arab-world/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-24980013

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2013/10/02...rights-abuses/
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Old July 10th, 2016, 07:56 PM   #15299
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I still don't understand why they are building this so big. Obviously it must be just to make a statement. As amazing this will look when complete I think it would have been better to spend the money improving the city instead.
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Old July 10th, 2016, 10:06 PM   #15300
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This is an amazing project, fun to watch it being built.
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