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Old July 26th, 2016, 03:19 PM   #15401
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There really is not much of a difference in the two building, at the roof it is less than 150 feet between them.
It's enough to make it the world's tallest by a good margin when finished.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 04:55 PM   #15402
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Quick question, when will cladding be added?
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Old July 26th, 2016, 06:36 PM   #15403
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frank loyd wrights design for a mile high tower was much better !
Stylistically, it's quite a copy. It won't differ much, if I admit it's 10% better, indeed. I would rather advocate for something twice as good in style.
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Old July 26th, 2016, 07:28 PM   #15404
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Stylistically, it's quite a copy. It won't differ much, if I admit it's 10% better, indeed. I would rather advocate for something twice as good in style.
I agree. The design is replica of BK, which is too basic in my opinion. I wish the project owner went for far superior design or something unique that can only be seen in Jeddah.

I suggest we snatch this design from our fellow Americans before they build it. Heck I would prefer 200-300 m building with this design over 1,000,000,000 m basic building.

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Old July 26th, 2016, 08:57 PM   #15405
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Wow Dubai must get such a tower ... now that's a beautiful highrise
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Old July 27th, 2016, 12:12 AM   #15406
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I agree. The design is replica of BK, which is too basic in my opinion. I wish the project owner went for far superior design or something unique that can only be seen in Jeddah.

I suggest we snatch this design from our fellow Americans before they build it. Heck I would prefer 200-300 m building with this design over 1,000,000,000 m basic building.

Kitsch as f.
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Old July 27th, 2016, 12:16 AM   #15407
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I agree. The design is replica of BK, which is too basic in my opinion. I wish the project owner went for far superior design or something unique that can only be seen in Jeddah.

I suggest we snatch this design from our fellow Americans before they build it. Heck I would prefer 200-300 m building with this design over 1,000,000,000 m basic building.

First, the discussion concerned a Frank Lloyd Wright design's replica.
Second, BK is not a basic design. It's inconvenient for interiors (spoiling too many possibilities), but not basic at all.
Third, a more superior design is impossible for Jeddah right now. Because the design budget has already been disbursed. It's not a problem of design possibilities, it's only a problem of funding.

PS. While "designing" Michelangelo tower, they disregarded the main architectural principles. It has some primitivistic sculpture, but not architecture. They omitted proportions, rhythms, superpositions (the other meaning of it, which is only applicable here) and ornamentation rules. It's not like "some elements don't make sense here", it's almost like "no elements make sense here". C'mon guys, study architecture before you do it so tacky!
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Old July 27th, 2016, 01:24 AM   #15408
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Here's some FEA data regarding the foundation design (you will have to pardon Eng. Ahmed for the sound quality of this video).

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Old July 28th, 2016, 10:47 AM   #15409
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It's getting very quite over here! What's the latest update?
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Old July 28th, 2016, 02:37 PM   #15410
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Are they building it already? Is this even started?
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Old July 28th, 2016, 02:45 PM   #15411
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Are they building it already? Is this even started?
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Old July 29th, 2016, 12:52 AM   #15412
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I agree. The design is replica of BK, which is too basic in my opinion. I wish the project owner went for far superior design or something unique that can only be seen in Jeddah.

I suggest we snatch this design from our fellow Americans before they build it. Heck I would prefer 200-300 m building with this design over 1,000,000,000 m basic building.

That is hideous.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 02:04 AM   #15413
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It's enough to make it the world's tallest by a good margin when finished.
It looks like The Tower in Dubai may end up being taller than this one, and finished earlier too, since it should be easier construction. It would suck if the Kingdom tower, once finished, is only the 2nd tallest without ever being the tallest. What do you guys think are the odds that the Kingdom Tower's spire may be increased as well to make sure it does in fact become the tallest?
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Old July 29th, 2016, 05:09 AM   #15414
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In my opinion if Emaar was indeed aiming for the world's tallest tower, they will make it taller by far. So there's no point of increasing the spire.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 06:27 AM   #15415
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I think it was stated earlier in the thread that JT is now high enough that the wing slopes can't really be changed for height. The spire might be able to be adjusted to some extent for additional height but that would affect the tapering and is something I don't think of them doing since this design is pretty solidified by now.

But I don't think they're terribly worried. JT is a skyscraper / building so will win that category, whereas The Tower is IMO, more akin to the CN Tower or other towers / masts. etc., that aren't quite in the same definition. Both win, just in different ways.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 06:41 AM   #15416
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The Tower in Dubai will not be a building, but a guyed tower, so Jeddah Tower will still be the tallest building and tallest free standing structure. So, it will not be disappointing if The Tower finishes construction first.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 08:19 AM   #15417
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Who's to say the tower in dubai will even be that tall to surpass JT? It's still a proposal at this stage and what if it doesn't get built then what? Let's leave the arguments for another thread and talk about this building in this thread. I'd like to see picture updates but all I see is more and more unnecessary arguments over a fricken needle
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Old July 29th, 2016, 08:51 AM   #15418
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The Tower at Dubai Creek Harbour: Wind tests completed on UAE’s future tallest building

http://www.thenational.ae/business/p...llest-building

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Old July 29th, 2016, 09:30 AM   #15419
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The Tower at Dubai Creek Harbour: Wind tests completed on UAE’s future tallest building

http://www.thenational.ae/business/p...llest-building

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Old July 29th, 2016, 11:31 AM   #15420
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You people are bickering over height, and your not focused on what's really important being will this tower have the financing for completion?

Oil is tumbling again, and the KSA will be burning through more cash reserves if the price of oil keeps dropping. Kingdom Holding has also lost a lot money, and construction contractors are on the verge of being paid with IOU's.

The new guard are even planning to off load their countries cash cow oil because they know it's worthless from now on in an anticipated IPO of Aramco. Obviously if they knew if oil would be worth more in the future they would pump less today, so in the future they could get more market share, or not. Instead they very well know the United States will never ever be in a energy straight jacket again so they are stuck between a rock, and a very hard place.

To make matters worse the KSA is involved/supporting/financing two proxy wars on it's Southern, and Northern borders which they just cant win. With all their modern weaponry they can't over throw rag tag armies in Toyota pick up trucks, and small arms fire power which is also bleeding them valuable finance. To make matters worse it looks like Turkey wont support them any more in the North, they have other plans from what we see after the attempted coup. There is a very strong chance Iran will have a solid hegemony in Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon to the North in the future.

Then you get the possibility of Trump being president which would be the nail in the coffin. There will be no more KSA external political shenanigans, a thirteenth century mind set will need to catch up to today's real world very quickly.

So people in the end let's be real, if this building get's finished it will be a miracle.
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