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Old October 29th, 2017, 01:21 PM   #17441
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Tourism, Religious tourism, Building and construction such as economical cities and mega governmental projects and privatization of hospitals,airports, universities and sport are of the biggest Saudi non-oil revenues.
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Old October 29th, 2017, 10:10 PM   #17442
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Saudi Arabia wants to build a $500 billion mega-city spanning 3 countries
http://money.cnn.com/2017/10/24/news...eom/index.html

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Old October 29th, 2017, 10:44 PM   #17443
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Oil pays for all that construction though.
Yeah it is all from oil you are so smart

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Old October 30th, 2017, 04:32 AM   #17444
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Because it is NOT a helipad...
what is it? it ruins the silhouette imo
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Old October 30th, 2017, 06:42 AM   #17445
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I got some pics of construction when they installed Bartec couplers for all foundation, columns and vertical connection. Quite an impressive work.




Source: https://dextragroup.com/activities/t...8-jeddah-tower
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Old October 30th, 2017, 09:33 AM   #17446
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Care to explain instead of just insulting?
Explained in all the thread's pages

The project is 100% owned by private companies (Kingdom Holding, Binladin and others)

Aramco (the Saudi oil company) 100% owned by the government

Need any more explanation?
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Old October 30th, 2017, 11:00 AM   #17447
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Explained in all the thread's pages

The project is 100% owned by private companies (Kingdom Holding, Binladin and others)

Aramco (the Saudi oil company) 100% owned by the government

Need any more explanation?
And where do you think they have money from, how it all originated?
They process sand? Agriculture, IT-, Health-, Auto-Industry? Ah no, oil. Without oil it would be Mauritania-like country.

And do not take it wrong, no insults, just facts.

All the best for the project anyway.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 11:24 AM   #17448
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what is it? it ruins the silhouette imo

A viewing platform.


(A helipad so close to the tower would be quite dangerous)..




Concerning construction:
I understood that the entire platform will be lifted in one piece from ground floor level to 600 m.
There has been an animation clip on YouTube that showed this action. But this clip was removed, probably illegal.
It will be spectacular anyway.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 11:40 AM   #17449
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Core is jumping now!258M!
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Old October 30th, 2017, 11:44 AM   #17450
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Old October 30th, 2017, 11:54 AM   #17451
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That is something I wonder about though.. even if it were built extremely well, nothing lasts forever right? What exactly would happen once this building reaches a point where it is structurally unsound?
Every skyscraper contains many components and structural elements that will after some time start to weaken. However, one needs to bear in mind that these components can be replaced. So theoretically, every structural member in a steel skyscraper can be switched out. In a few decades, if you look at the Empire State Building, probably all the parts that were in the original building have since been replaced, so essentially you are looking at a new building. I am not sure how this would be done with a concrete skyscraper, but apparently there is a process called realkalisation that can make concrete last even longer, although the concrete should not deteriorate in the first place as it is covered by cladding which can easily be replaced.
http://remedialtechnology.com.au/29/Realkalisation/
And keep in mind the average skyscraper is designed to last 500 years if it is maintained, so this tower will likely remain standing for a loooong time. In the end, the only reason not to carry on maintaining a structure would be economic reasons, but I do not think this tower will become obsolete in the near future. So, we will definitely see this standing way longer than any of us will live.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 12:09 PM   #17452
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I wonder if all structural elements of the Eifel Tower have once been replaced since new construction.
I doubt it.
But it is continuously being painted...
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Old October 30th, 2017, 12:45 PM   #17453
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And where do you think they have money from, how it all originated?
They process sand? Agriculture, IT-, Health-, Auto-Industry? Ah no, oil. Without oil it would be Mauritania-like country.

And do not take it wrong, no insults, just facts.

All the best for the project anyway.
Will, that means that you are talking about something that you don't know anything about

The media must be affecting so much
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Old October 30th, 2017, 01:20 PM   #17454
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In the "Western World" (whatever that is...) many people still think that SA is floating on oil and people only ride on camels there.

Which is not true, off course.


Why does such discussion come up every 10 pages or so?
SA is just a modern country in my opinion, and the realization of Jeddah Tower has little to do with oil dollars.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 01:33 PM   #17455
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JEDDAH | Jeddah Tower | 1000m+ | 3281ft+ | 167 fl | U/C

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In the "Western World" (whatever that is...) many people think that SA is floating on oil and people only ride om camels there.


Which is not true, off course.




Why does such discussion come up every 10 pages or so?
SA is just a modern country in my opinion, and the realization of Jeddah Tower has little to do with oil dollars.

Which private company would built a 1000 meter tower in the dessert with really cheap ground prices. Name one please. This project isnít even sustainable in New York of making profit.


Maybe thatís why the contractor is almost bankrupt....
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Old October 30th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #17456
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Old October 30th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #17457
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A viewing platform.


(A helipad so close to the tower would be quite dangerous)..

i stand corrected. the renderings for the jeddah tower reminded me of this tower from ho chi minh city on steroids. same with the burj al arab jumeirah. both helipads are an eyesore n the jeddah tower is no exception - viewing platform or not.


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Old October 30th, 2017, 05:21 PM   #17458
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On Burj-al-Arab, it IS a real helipad (although one time used as a tennis court...).
But is it much lower than the viewing platform on JT. The height of 600 m would make it impossible to land safely due to expected strong winds at that height.
Burj-al-Arab is only 300 m.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 06:00 PM   #17459
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Jeddah Tower sky terrace



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Old October 30th, 2017, 08:17 PM   #17460
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It is rather big.


Will be spectacular to see it hoisted in one piece, from ground level.
Can't wait !!!
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