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Old April 1st, 2009, 05:33 PM   #121
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This reminds me of the new 7 World Trade Center.

BTW, how badly has the crisis affected the construction industry in Montréal?
Well seeing as there hasn't been much office building construction over the past 15 years (4 buildings built over that span, three of which were financed by the provincial gov't) i'd say the recession hasnT, h8it us all that much. Montreal is doing relatively well economically pseaking.

Also, the commercial real estate market is very healthy. the Office vacancy rates are much lower than most other N-A cities(currently sitting at about 6-7% for Class A and B buildings). The reason why not much was built, was that although the market was relatively tight, the rental rates were still too low. Landlords are looking for NER's(Net effective Rates) of approx 25-28$per square foot to build new buildings, and right now, they are getting about 21-22$ P.S.F.

At some point, the market will be sooooo tight, that some major tenant will no longer have any choice but to move into a new construction...how long will that take? I'm not sure, but my guess is that it might take 3-5 years!
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I can never figure out why some enterprising developer doesn't start on a new tower now so that it is ready when the economy gets back on track. Obviously it is going to be needed, so why not start now instead of having to wait three or four years after the downturn goes away for a new tower to be completed?
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Old April 1st, 2009, 08:57 PM   #123
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I can never figure out why some enterprising developer doesn't start on a new tower now so that it is ready when the economy gets back on track. Obviously it is going to be needed, so why not start now instead of having to wait three or four years after the downturn goes away for a new tower to be completed?
Right now, not a single bank would lend a developer the kind of money needed to start a major office tower. Banks (when the economy is good) will lend money to developers when 50-60% of the building is pre-leased, and only when that occurs can a developer hope to start his building. The Days of developers building "on spec" are over.(since the "boom" and later "crash" of the late 80's/early 90's)

Also, let's not forget that it costs a shitload of money to operate a 30-40 storey office tower. If nobody occupies the building for the 1st year, the Owner can lose a lot of money!

Just to give you an example. a 500,000 square foot building(about 30 floors) costs about 10 to 12 million$ to operate per year. If nobody occupies, the Owner has to pay(utilities, taxes, operating expenses etc.etc.etc.).
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 08:33 AM   #124
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I guess you are right, but it seems to me it would be a good investment to start planning one now so that when the need is there, the tower would be built.
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 04:08 PM   #125
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I guess you are right, but it seems to me it would be a good investment to start planning one now so that when the need is there, the tower would be built.
Agreed, but banks won't lend the money unless at least 50-60% of the tower is pre-leased. It's pretty much the same things across Canada.


Nobody wants to re-live the real estate crash we lived in the late 80's early 90's!
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Old April 2nd, 2009, 07:54 PM   #126
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Agreed, but banks won't lend the money unless at least 50-60% of the tower is pre-leased. It's pretty much the same things across Canada.


Nobody wants to re-live the real estate crash we lived in the late 80's early 90's!
I guess that is what made them so nervous about loaning money. They waited so long here to build a major new office tower, when it would have made sense to start building one three years ago. Oh well... let's hope the slump ends soon.
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Old April 11th, 2009, 07:32 AM   #128
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Thanks for the images! I hope to see freuquent upates here!
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Old April 11th, 2009, 06:20 PM   #129
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I cannot wait till JMSB building opens.
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Old April 12th, 2009, 02:31 PM   #130
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Old April 14th, 2009, 04:54 PM   #131
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Old April 15th, 2009, 05:41 AM   #132
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Je viens de me rendre à une consultation organisée par la SDA (Société de Développement Angus) par rapport à la reconversion de plusieurs terrains dans le terrain des spectacles.

Tout d'abord, sur l'espace vacant situé au coin Saint-Catherine et Saint-Laurent, il est prévu de faire une sorte de maison de la culture de 7 étages. Le projet est évalué à 16 millions de $. La date de livraison est prévue pour 2010.

Sur le Quadrilatère Saint-Laurent, Clark et Saint Catherine, Hydro Québec par l'intermédiaire de la SDA prévoit de construire des extensions de son siège social avec un immeuble de 15 étages. La date de livraison est prévue pour 2012 et le cout est estimé à 160 millions de $

Enfin proche de l'édicule du métro Saint-Laurent, il est prévu de faire un immeuble de 8-10 étages regroupant une école de musique ainsi qu'un cinéma "parallèle".
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Old April 15th, 2009, 06:51 PM   #133
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Pour ceux que cela intéresse, le site Montréal 2025 recense tous les projets urbains pour Montréal! Très intéressant et bien fait.

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Old May 4th, 2009, 02:31 AM   #135
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salutations à tous

quelqu'un de vous sait quel est la population actuelle de Montréal?

la plus actuelle qu'il y ait

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Agglomération environ 3.8 millions, ville 1.6 millions je pense. Île de Montréal 1.9 millions.

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Old May 4th, 2009, 06:20 PM   #137
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salutations à tous

quelqu'un de vous sait quel est la population actuelle de Montréal?

la plus actuelle qu'il y ait

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Old May 5th, 2009, 12:03 AM   #138
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merci calmar.

la deuxiéme ville de l'Australie se ressemble à Montreal en population.

j'ai vu le dernier rapport démographique sorti en avril pour l'Australie et Melbourne a déjà presqu'à 4 millions d'habitants.

il y a quelques années que Montreal et Melbourne étaient à 3.6 millions chacune, mais il paraît que Melbourne a dépasse dernièrement à Montreal.

les deux se ressemblent aussi pour d'anciennes facades de ses bâtiments au niveau de la rue. très élégantes et originaux
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Y a t'il des projets de gratte-ciel à Montréal?
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 01:57 AM   #140
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Y a t'il des projets de gratte-ciel à Montréal?


Il y a plusieurs projets qui ont été proposés dans les dernières années, mais les promoteurs attendent de trouver des locataires majeurs avant de démarrer leurs projets.

Je connais au moins 4 projets (qui ont entre 25 et 35 étages chacuns) qui sont en attente.

Il ya aussi quelques projets en construction pour des tours résidentielles (le Louis-Bohème - 28 étages). Le Mackay - 34 étages est proposé.
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